NikonGear'23
Gear Talk => Lens Talk => Topic started by: chambeshi on July 04, 2017, 18:44:35
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The Nikon seems to be only in Japanese
https://nikonrumors.com/2017/07/04/nikon-arcrest-protection-filters-update.aspx/#more-113437
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So what is the advantage of them?
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So what is the advantage of them?
The main text in Nikon site translates in google on Chrome browser: claimed benefits include the thinner Nikkor glass that are precision ground, the water and oil coatings etc
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Do "Protection" and "thinner" go together?
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Depends what you are protecting against :)
I'm sure I remember reading Nikon advertising from years ago which claimed their filters were precision ground to be optically flat - to the same standard as their lenses. Has anything really changed? I guess the mounting system is new.
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Do "Protection" and "thinner" go together?
+1: That's what I thought.
They will probably save a front element from a modest impact like bumping a rock and glancing impacts.
For Nikon's sake I hope they sell well.
Dave
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https://www.ebay.com/sch/merchant/?_nkw=Nikon+Arcrest&_sacat=&_ex_kw=&_mPrRngCbx=1&_udlo=&_udhi=&_sop=12&rmvSB=true
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Here's a review of the filter posted in Impress-Watch:
http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/review/item/1066770.html
You see four thumbnails of crops from each of the two different nightscapes. The first one is shot without filter, the second one with Acrest, the third and the fourth ones are shot with the filters of other brands.
Nikon says that they concentrated on improving the flatness and the least reflection. They say they avoided the anti-static coating to keep the filter as transparent as possible.
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I'm a believer, I couldn't leave her if I tried ...
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Thinner means it will have less impact on IQ, which ordinary UVs already don't have much impact on unless one goes to extreme pixel peeping.
Better coating means better performance against light... UVs are not recommended when shooting against light anyway.
Whatever fluorine coating thing would mean droplet repelling and scratch resistant.
Loads of marketing terms as such would imply the rationale of a higher pricetag. :)
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Looking at the test images used for comparison, the Arcrest does seem to perform a lot better than their same price-tier counterparts, and outright obliterates the cheaper ones.
Ehhh, I'm still not going to use UV filters unless there's strong wind and dust.
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Lensrentals...
Good Times with Bad Filters (https://wordpress.lensrentals.com/blog/2011/06/good-times-with-bad-filters/)
Front Element Lens Protection Revisited (https://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2016/12/front-element-lens-protection-revisited/)
There Has Been a Big Change
When I wrote most of those articles I talked about above, front elements cost from $70 to $200, and good filters cost $70- to $140. Today highest quality UV filters cost from $70 to $120, even in 82mm size. But the cost of replacing front elements has skyrocketed.
I’ve always said to evaluate the cost-benefit ratio of whether you want to use a protective filter. Now the price has changed so that change should be factored into the equation. (BTW – the costs I’m giving as examples below are our costs. Your prices may be different. But we’re a really large repair customer based in the U. S. so by ‘different’ I mean ‘yours will probably be a bit more expensive.’) --Lensrentals from the link above.
My Not Quite Complete Protective Filter Article (https://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2017/06/the-comprehensive-ranking-of-the-major-uv-filters-on-the-market/)
I've skimmed these articles. One I think I read before. There are more links available by scanning.
Dave
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the words "protection" and "thinner" when used in one sentence conjures up something else in my mind :o :o :o
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Thanks for these links to interesting articles "The Hoya, B&W, and Marumi filters on the list above all have good reputations and are reasonably priced. They should all do just fine."
After reading through n+ comparative tests, early last year I settled on Marumi MC Lens Protect for all my lenses. Also PL's by Marumi including their 105mm PL for the Zeiss 15 2.8
They all do just fine. On several occasions, they've saved front elements in rougher conditions. And three 52mm Nikons - L37c - purchased back in 1984 still do their protecting; one is on my 20 f4. But it's a sound tactic to remove the filter for shots into direct sun.
kind regards