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Gear Talk => Lens Talk => Topic started by: RonVol on February 17, 2017, 22:11:59

Title: NIKKOR-N 35mm f/1.4 Prototype
Post by: RonVol on February 17, 2017, 22:11:59
Here's a very rare photo from 1970 of the prototype Nikkor-N 35mm f/1.4 with serial #254003.
Nothing obvious stands out when comparing this example to a production version.
Title: Re: NIKKOR-N 35mm f/1.4 Prototype
Post by: Akira on February 17, 2017, 22:45:02
Ah, this should be the one with the Thorium glass.  Never seen the image of it.  Thanks, as always, for sharing, Ron!
Title: Re: NIKKOR-N 35mm f/1.4 Prototype
Post by: Erik Lund on February 17, 2017, 23:02:35
Very vintage ;) Thanks for posting!
Title: Re: NIKKOR-N 35mm f/1.4 Prototype
Post by: pluton on February 18, 2017, 05:23:19
Ah, this should be the one with the Thorium glass.  Never seen the image of it.  Thanks, as always, for sharing, Ron!
I have read that the first production Nikkor-N also carries the hot glass and that the Mk2 "K" revision eliminated it.
Title: Re: NIKKOR-N 35mm f/1.4 Prototype
Post by: Akira on February 18, 2017, 08:28:36
I have read that the first production Nikkor-N also carries the hot glass and that the Mk2 "K" revision eliminated it.

You mean, all versions with the metal hill-and-dale focusing rings have the Thorium glass elements?
Title: Re: NIKKOR-N 35mm f/1.4 Prototype
Post by: chris dees on February 18, 2017, 11:53:58
According to Rolands DB mine is from early 1971 and it is the 9-blade thorium one. I guess second generation. Beautiful chipped by Erik. :)
It has a strong yellow cast but it's not always the same.
The examples are from the central square in Antwerp.
Title: Re: NIKKOR-N 35mm f/1.4 Prototype
Post by: richardHaw on February 18, 2017, 12:04:19
that amber tint might come into handy with BW film  :o :o :o
Title: Re: NIKKOR-N 35mm f/1.4 Prototype
Post by: pluton on February 18, 2017, 17:27:40
You mean, all versions with the metal hill-and-dale focusing rings have the Thorium glass elements?
Yes, that is my assumption. The "C" version on Roland's list. 
Title: Re: NIKKOR-N 35mm f/1.4 Prototype
Post by: Roland Vink on February 18, 2017, 19:53:52
You mean, all versions with the metal hill-and-dale focusing rings have the Thorium glass elements?
Yes that's right, the glass material changed with the New Nikkor (K) version, see http://www.nikkor.com/story/0027/ :

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This lens has been used to date since its first introduction in 1971 through changes in the lens barrels and the adoption of what was then the latest super-integrated coating technologies; changes were also made to the optical system at the time when the lens barrel design was changed to the NEW-Nikkor. Though the basic lens construction remained unchanged, the glass material and the lens curvature were changed by Teruyoshi TSUNASHIMA, to improve the performance at open aperture.
Title: Re: NIKKOR-N 35mm f/1.4 Prototype
Post by: Akira on February 18, 2017, 22:12:01
Chris, thanks for sharing the image of your lens.

Keith and Roland, thanks for the answer.  I'm well aware of the 1001-night article, but the Thorium glass is not mentioned there.  Probably because the Japanese people are in general too sensitive to anything radioactive, including me.   :o