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Images => Life, the Universe & Everything Else => Topic started by: Airy on January 13, 2017, 21:23:36

Title: Tamron 45/1.8 weathering the storm
Post by: Airy on January 13, 2017, 21:23:36
Mounted on the Df. f/14, 1/8s, 100 ISO of course, handheld with stabilizer on. Purpose was to get the incoming TGV blurred, with snow hashing the air.
B&W processing in LR with lots of cheats (filtering) to get the mood as I wished.
Title: Re: Tamron 45/1.8 weathering the storm
Post by: Tristin on January 13, 2017, 22:43:58
Lovely image. 

My recent foray into VR makes this lens sound incredibly appealing.  It seems the common thought on VR is about allowing lower ISO, but it is the low shutter speeds that I find myself dreaming of now.  As you executed well for this image!
Title: Re: Tamron 45/1.8 weathering the storm
Post by: Thomas G on January 13, 2017, 22:49:36
Mounted on the Df. f/14, 1/8s, 100 ISO of course, handheld with stabilizer on. Purpose was to get the incoming TGV blurred, with snow hashing the air.
B&W processing in LR with lots of cheats (filtering) to get the mood as I wished.
Perfectly reflects the mood I seam to have had when going out of my front door today.
Title: Re: Tamron 45/1.8 weathering the storm
Post by: Akira on January 13, 2017, 23:27:54
You realized your intention nicely.  The tone, the shutter speed, the timing...everything fits into the place.  VR...hmm...another attraction...
Title: Re: Tamron 45/1.8 weathering the storm
Post by: Airy on January 13, 2017, 23:56:20
Yes, VR opens new possibilities for handheld shooting, as exemplified above. In addition, even with VR off, this Tamron lens is very good. I did not bother making side-by-side comparisons with others, because it remains a "special" lens to me, mainly because of its size and weight. But it is sure to be one of the best, especially at night (low coma).

Its design is also intriguing : concave front element.
Title: Re: Tamron 45/1.8 weathering the storm
Post by: Akira on January 14, 2017, 00:06:49
Its design is also intriguing : concave front element.

The first lens with concave front element I had ever seen was Leica Summilux M 35mm, and I was so interested.  The concave element make the cleaning easier (along with the fluorine coating in Tamron's case), I guess?
Title: Re: Tamron 45/1.8 weathering the storm
Post by: Airy on January 14, 2017, 07:33:58
I never had to clean it so far, just dusting.

I think the Canon FD 35/2 I had long ago, also had a concave front element. Probably part of a retrofocus design.
Title: Re: Tamron 45/1.8 weathering the storm
Post by: Akira on January 14, 2017, 15:40:27
I think that the concave front element is relatively new design concept.  Canon FD 35/2.0 was of a normal retro-focus design.

http://blog.goo.ne.jp/tattuu1/e/f6cec853d1dce40b43ac96c65425e64c

Correction: the first lens with a concave front element that I noticed was actually UV-Sonnar 105mm/f4.3 for the Hasselblad V cameras.  The second one was UV Nikkor 105/4.5 and then Summilux 35/1.4.
Title: Re: Tamron 45/1.8 weathering the storm
Post by: Thomas Stellwag on January 14, 2017, 16:23:09
there were Zeiss Ultrons, 35mm and 50mm as well in the mid/end 60tes     -  edit:  with concave front elements -

I like the picture of the TGV in snow, a pity that it isn´t allowed to use tripods in railway owned places
Title: Re: Tamron 45/1.8 weathering the storm
Post by: Airy on January 14, 2017, 17:16:45
Recently in France, photos in railway premises have been forbidden again (the despisable police regulations dating back to the fascist government in the 40ies were de-activated in the late eighties, but re-activated recently using terrorism as an excuse - reality is, some folks at SNCF still hope to mastermind all visual communication. In effect, SLR users sometimes get annoyed, while smartphones make pictures all the time, and smokers hardly get reminded that smoking at stations is no longer allowed, 68€ penalty - well, train conductors are often the first to light one)
Title: Re: Tamron 45/1.8 weathering the storm
Post by: pluton on January 22, 2017, 07:46:12
The Mark 1 Canon FD 35/2 SC(not SSC) had a concave front element, and, if I recall recent internet info correctly, thorium glass.
I owned one of the Mk 2 SSC ones in the late 1970's, it made nice and sharp and clear photos on Kodachrome 25.
Title: Re: Tamron 45/1.8 weathering the storm
Post by: Akira on January 24, 2017, 05:49:33
Tried both 45/1.8 and 85/1.8 Tamrons at a retailer on my D750.  The image stabilization of 45/1.8 was superb: I could hand-hold the combo down to 1/15 sec. to get sharp images without much effort or care.  On the other hand, it was difficult to get blur-free images even at 1/80 sec. with 85/1.8.
Title: Re: Tamron 45/1.8 weathering the storm
Post by: Airy on January 24, 2017, 19:36:09
With the 45mm, VC works consistently down to 1/8s. At 1/4s, it is wise to shoot 2-3 shots. At 1/2s, I did not experiment.
Title: Re: Tamron 45/1.8 weathering the storm
Post by: pluton on January 24, 2017, 21:09:12

B&W processing in LR with lots of cheats (filtering) to get the mood as I wished.
Looks like it was cold.
I like the clean and spacious composition.
The tonal rendition seems a touch too bright or 'greyed out' on a 1280x720 laptop, better on a fancy NEC 27" monitor.... but I take your word that you have made the mood the way you wanted it.
Title: Re: Tamron 45/1.8 weathering the storm
Post by: Airy on January 24, 2017, 21:47:55
In fact everything looked white, but some details. For instance, the fences on the right (dark green) stood out, so I got them lighter. Same with some colored patterns on the high speed train nose and sides.
Title: Re: Tamron 45/1.8 weathering the storm
Post by: pluton on January 25, 2017, 02:24:36
In fact everything looked white, but some details. For instance, the fences on the right (dark green) stood out, so I got them lighter. Same with some colored patterns on the high speed train nose and sides.
Thank you for adding this info.
Title: Re: Tamron 45/1.8 weathering the storm
Post by: gryphon1911 on March 31, 2017, 16:30:01
I'm a big an of the framing, the position of the subjects in the frame and the idea behind it.

I'm a "more contrasty" kind of guy and this feels just a tad to gray with no definite black.  Just my thoughts on it...not knocking it at all.
Title: Re: Tamron 45/1.8 weathering the storm
Post by: Airy on March 31, 2017, 20:57:02
Thanks Gryphon.

The lack of deep blacks is on purpose, and a result of PP.

That being said, it is true that the Tamron is less contrasty than, say, any Zeiss I have (25/2, 35/2, 50/2, 135/2). It is probably very good for portraits (1/2 body, or nudes...) in mild tones, but I have yet to test it under such circumstances.