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Gear Talk => Lens Talk => Topic started by: PedroS on December 06, 2016, 18:29:21
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Mine 60mm micro AFS is sick; it's an AF problem... 8 years old... :o
Sometimes it works, sometimes it rests... and on all my bodies.
Yes, I have cleaned the contacts.
Question is; is this lens easy serviceable or should I send it to more knowledgeable people?
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Nikon service will take good care of it :)
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Mine 60mm micro AFS is sick; it's an AF problem... 8 years old... :o
Sometimes it works, sometimes it rests... and on all my bodies.
Yes, I have cleaned the contacts.
Question is; is this lens easy serviceable or should I send it to more knowledgeable people?
I had that with my 60G after excessive use. AF was totally stuck. Nikon repaired it for roughly 100 Euros.
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Funny, mine is a year old. I have used it quite a few photos and experience similar problems.
Is this lens specific?
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Well from my big pack of AFS that's the only one with problems...
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Pedro
I've had 2 AFS lens failures in the last 18 months.
My 300 f4 motor failed and will cost too much to fix (estimated at AUD$500). That was from underuse?
My made in Japan 60mm which I used daily at work stuck around 30cm focus distance - I mainly use it from 30-100cm focal distance. It then stopped AF altogether. That was also estimated to cost AUD$500 to fix. I bought that new about 8 years ago.
I'm currently in HKG and picked up a new 60mm AFS - made in Thailand for AUD $620 - and it focuses far faster and much more smoothly than my previous lens did. I think it has been upgraded internally since it first came out.
So if you use this lens daily as I do, a new one may be better than an old one repaired (I can't get it fixed cheaply in Australia anyway)
JJ
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you might've gotten a lemon :o :o :o
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you might've gotten a lemon :o :o :o
That makes 3 lemons in one thread....
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Pedro
I've had 2 AFS lens failures in the last 18 months.
My 300 f4 motor failed and will cost too much to fix (estimated at AUD$500). That was from underuse?
My made in Japan 60mm which I used daily at work stuck around 30cm focus distance - I mainly use it from 30-100cm focal distance. It then stopped AF altogether. That was also estimated to cost AUD$500 to fix. I bought that new about 8 years ago.
I'm currently in HKG and picked up a new 60mm AFS - made in Thailand for AUD $620 - and it focuses far faster and much more smoothly than my previous lens did. I think it has been upgraded internally since it first came out.
So if you use this lens daily as I do, a new one may be better than an old one repaired (I can't get it fixed cheaply in Australia anyway)
JJ
That's a fair point.
Thanks
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Yet many people complain when a new lens (105/1.4) doesn't come with this type of a failure prone motor. I don't understand. ???
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That makes 3 lemons in one thread....
A lemon tree... perhaps ;)
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one thing I can say is that many of the 1st gen AF-S lenses have developed some form of problems connected to the AF motor. :o :o :o
cases that I have knowledge about (friends/acquaintances,stories from the shop and reading the net):
28-70 (known)
17-55 (known)
80-200 AF-S (known)
60mm (from this thread)
70-200VR 1st gen (1 case, from a repairman friend)
what do you guys think? is it fair to put the earlier 60mm into the "known" list? my friends' 28-70 and 17-55 haven't developed any problems since but then i lost communication with some of them or they have sod their lenses. any opinions?
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Yet many people complain when a new lens (105/1.4) doesn't come with this type of a failure prone motor. I don't understand. ???
simple is best ::)
i wonder. will that give us new problems instead? :o :o :o
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The ring ultrasonic motor was introduced into camera lenses by Canon in 1987 (300/2.8 ) or so (first use by Nikon 300/2.8 in 1996 I think). A 2008 release (60mm f/2.8 AF-S Micro; 21 years after the first Canon lens) should not be excused as suffering from "1st generation" problems of this technology.
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simple is best ::)
i wonder. will that give us new problems instead? :o :o :o
I would think that replacement is easy since the motor is at the side of the lens instead of around it.
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Please remember that there are hundreds of thousands of these lenses with ring motor out there that just go on and on and on,,, Just because you see a couple of bad/broken motors and read about someone who has an issue,,, Doesn't really make me worried,,,
Not that I think the gear box design is bad it's just an awful lot of parts instead of just a few rings, as well as hear power - Speed of acquiring focus of the ring motor lenses,,,
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Can we share the serial numbers of the affected three 60 Micro G AF-S here?
Mine is US 204114
It was announced on 29 January 2008 on the PMA Trade Fair and I bought the lens immediately after it was available.
In my Nikon Registration 21/May/2008 is the date of purchase, so shortly after I bought the D3.
IIRC the Motor stuck in 2015.
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Purchase date 31/07/2008
sn 212543
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Both have 2xxxxx serial numbers with 6-digits, which places them in the first series made in Japan.
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Pedro
I've had 2 AFS lens failures in the last 18 months.
My 300 f4 motor failed and will cost too much to fix (estimated at AUD$500). That was from underuse?
JJ, When your 300/4 AF-S ED focus motor failed, was it still possible to manually focus the lens?
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JJ, When your 300/4 AF-S ED focus motor failed, was it still possible to manually focus the lens?
Yes - but the focus throw is VERY short and as there is no infinity stop difficult as well. I had dragged it out on a supermoon night last year to find it was wasn't working - isn't it always the case when you go miles out of your normal routine....
My 60mm is a bit younger 240023
JJ
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I had always felt that the manual focus action of the 300/4 AFS was inferior to, say, the old 300/4.5 ED/IF Ai/AiS. However, recently I have found that when using the 300/4 AFS adapted to a Fujifilm mirrorless APSC camera, the ability to manually follow and set focus is excellent. It is therefore good news that when the AF motor dies--as I think it soon will--on mine, I can continue to use the lens.
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This thread confirms how Internet Myths are born and feed :o :o :o
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I will be happy to see a demonstration of accurate and reproducible manual focus on the 60 AF-S Micro at long distances. 100% crops please, wide open; each result must be precisely as sharp as each other and as sharp or sharper than it would be with LVAF to pass the test. I certainly cannot manual focus most autofocus Nikkors reproducibly near infinity focus.
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I will be happy to see a demonstration of accurate and reproducible manual focus on the 60 AF-S Micro at long distances. 100% crops please, wide open; each result must be precisely as sharp as each other and as sharp or sharper than it would be with LVAF to pass the test. I certainly cannot manual focus most autofocus Nikkors reproducibly near infinity focus.
Old Ai Nikkors are bette for MF, since quite a few of them have a more generous focus throw than AF-S Nikkors. Second, precise manual focusing at long distances is much easier with the 10x magnifier of an EVF than with an OVF.
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Please remember that there are hundreds of thousands of these lenses with ring motor out there that just go on and on and on,,, Just because you see a couple of bad/broken motors and read about someone who has an issue,,, Doesn't really make me worried,,,
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