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Title: Athens Street Shots, Part II
Post by: Ron Scubadiver on September 16, 2016, 16:33:12
(https://ronscubadiver.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/dsc_4410_1.jpg)
July, 2016 50mm f/1.4G

Thirty photos in this gallery:
https://ronscubadiver.wordpress.com/2016/09/08/athens-greece-2/ (https://ronscubadiver.wordpress.com/2016/09/08/athens-greece-2/)
Title: Re: Athens Street Shots, Part II
Post by: Frank Fremerey on September 16, 2016, 19:13:39
Thank you for sharing. I love the great diversity of women who found their way into your camera!

Yet, I would probalby prefer not to be married to a Greek woman. I once had a flatmate girl from Greece ... ohohoh ... I am not a very typical German I fear, but I felt the Genes very strongly ... happy when she moved out ...

And the Grandma of my Grandma was Greek!
Here is my fathers Grandpa: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Graf_zu_Dohna-Schlodien
Title: Re: Athens Street Shots, Part II
Post by: Mongo on September 17, 2016, 00:42:36
Mongo really likes this shot ! There is diversity even in threes. Particularly like what you have captured of the woman on the left - great connection with the camera/viewer and quite sincere spontaneous emotion from her. Its a shame and an interestingly telling social comment about this that all three woman seem to be in a hurry to injure their lungs and relatively youthful health.  Do real people still smoke in 2016 ??

Also like the clarity and tones of this mono image. Mongo notes the lens you used for this - it shows in the result. Nice work.
Title: Re: Athens Street Shots, Part II
Post by: Akira on September 17, 2016, 01:22:40
Ron, did you use a 50mm lens for all images in this batch?
Title: Re: Athens Street Shots, Part II
Post by: MFloyd on September 17, 2016, 09:09:14
Excellent picture. All shot around Syntagma place ?
Title: Re: Athens Street Shots, Part II
Post by: elsa hoffmann on September 17, 2016, 11:58:58
That is a really great image Ron! Beautiful interaction and expressions.
Title: Re: Athens Street Shots, Part II
Post by: Lars Hansen on September 17, 2016, 15:32:39
Ron - great series of the urban sirens of Athens  :)
Title: Re: Athens Street Shots, Part II
Post by: Ron Scubadiver on September 17, 2016, 16:07:09
Mongo really likes this shot ! There is diversity even in threes. Particularly like what you have captured of the woman on the left - great connection with the camera/viewer and quite sincere spontaneous emotion from her. Its a shame and an interestingly telling social comment about this that all three woman seem to be in a hurry to injure their lungs and relatively youthful health.  Do real people still smoke in 2016 ??

Also like the clarity and tones of this mono image. Mongo notes the lens you used for this - it shows in the result. Nice work.

Unfortunately, people still smoke.  In the US there has been a major reduction.  I think the 50 f/1.4G is a bargain.  Thank you.
Title: Re: Athens Street Shots, Part II
Post by: Ron Scubadiver on September 17, 2016, 16:08:36
Ron, did you use a 50mm lens for all images in this batch?

Most, but not all.  Shots taken outside the city were with a 24-120.  If you view the individual images using the carousel there is a partial exif panel at the lower right.
Title: Re: Athens Street Shots, Part II
Post by: Ron Scubadiver on September 17, 2016, 16:11:29
Excellent picture. All shot around Syntagma place ?

Mostly near Syntagma.  A few were taken outside Athens.  If you are Greek the locations should be familiar.
Title: Re: Athens Street Shots, Part II
Post by: Ron Scubadiver on September 17, 2016, 16:12:13
Thank you for sharing. I love the great diversity of women who found their way into your camera!

Yet, I would probalby prefer not to be married to a Greek woman. I once had a flatmate girl from Greece ... ohohoh ... I am not a very typical German I fear, but I felt the Genes very strongly ... happy when she moved out ...

And the Grandma of my Grandma was Greek!
Here is my fathers Grandpa: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Graf_zu_Dohna-Schlodien

Thank you Frank.  I didn't know you had a little Greek in you.
Title: Re: Athens Street Shots, Part II
Post by: Ron Scubadiver on September 17, 2016, 16:13:36
That is a really great image Ron! Beautiful interaction and expressions.

Thanks Elsa.
Title: Re: Athens Street Shots, Part II
Post by: Akira on September 17, 2016, 18:50:16
Most, but not all.  Shots taken outside the city were with a 24-120.  If you view the individual images using the carousel there is a partial exif panel at the lower right.

Ron, thanks.  Sorry I missed the the technical data display.  You utilize the humble 50mm lens nicely, and there are many nice snapshots.
Title: Re: Athens Street Shots, Part II
Post by: Ron Scubadiver on September 17, 2016, 20:28:46
Ron, thanks.  Sorry I missed the the technical data display.  You utilize the humble 50mm lens nicely, and there are many nice snapshots.

Yikes, "snapshots"  that word as bad connotations. 
Title: Re: Athens Street Shots, Part II
Post by: Akira on September 17, 2016, 21:07:47
Yikes, "snapshots"  that word as bad connotations.

Nah, I didn't imply anything negative.  I enjoy your interactions with the people you capture.
Title: Re: Athens Street Shots, Part II
Post by: Ron Scubadiver on September 18, 2016, 00:31:13
Nah, I didn't imply anything negative.  I enjoy your interactions with the people you capture.

Thanks, the ones I get to talk to are the most fun.
Title: Re: Athens Street Shots, Part II
Post by: David H. Hartman on September 18, 2016, 02:06:26
There has been a considerable drop in smoking in the US since I was young..  Unfortunately many still smoke. I hate to see people I like smoke.
Title: Re: Athens Street Shots, Part II
Post by: Airy on September 18, 2016, 07:45:22
Not sure all three girls depicted are Greek, but smoking is still quite common in Greece compared to other EU countries. In Japan too, as far as I can remember the stats.

On the other hand, these girls do not seem to eat hamburgers washed down with coke on a daily basis. While smoking recedes in the US and elsewhere, obesity is becoming the next problem. I hope it will become possible to criticize bad food habits and put shaming stickers on junk food boxes, together with morbid photos.

That being said, excellent shot. And that 50mm is by no means "humble", just inexpensive. A guy (or gal) shooting with a 50mm is not humble, he's just another Henri Cartier-Bresson or Willy Ronis in spe. Hah !

By the way, do you know a famous female photographer who is fond of fifties ? (aaah those "f"s)
Title: Re: Athens Street Shots, Part II
Post by: Ron Scubadiver on September 19, 2016, 15:20:51
Not sure all three girls depicted are Greek, but smoking is still quite common in Greece compared to other EU countries. In Japan too, as far as I can remember the stats.

On the other hand, these girls do not seem to eat hamburgers washed down with coke on a daily basis. While smoking recedes in the US and elsewhere, obesity is becoming the next problem. I hope it will become possible to criticize bad food habits and put shaming stickers on junk food boxes, together with morbid photos.

That being said, excellent shot. And that 50mm is by no means "humble", just inexpensive. A guy (or gal) shooting with a 50mm is not humble, he's just another Henri Cartier-Bresson or Willy Ronis in spe. Hah !

By the way, do you know a famous female photographer who is fond of fifties ? (aaah those "f"s)

I am certain there are lots of tourists from the US, Asia and other parts of Europe in my photos.  Obesity is far worse in the US than it is in Europe.   Are people are eating more to make up for not smoking?
Title: Re: Athens Street Shots, Part II
Post by: David H. Hartman on September 19, 2016, 16:14:27
I am certain there are lots of tourists from the US, Asia and other parts of Europe in my photos.  Obesity is far worse in the US than it is in Europe.   Are people are eating more to make up for not smoking?

US beef is loaded with growth hormones and antibiotics, one possible answer; dairy also. Our Food and Drug Administration... too political. I'll stop here.

Dave The Rat Hunter.
Title: Re: Athens Street Shots, Part II
Post by: Ron Scubadiver on September 19, 2016, 16:52:46
US beef is loaded with growth hormones and antibiotics, one possible answer; dairy also. Our Food and Drug Administration... too political. I'll stop here.

Dave The Rat Hunter.

There is a lot of controversy and politics surrounding food beyond what you mention such as GMO's and gluten.  For that matter, controversy and politics are everywhere.  There has always been a controversy with regard to my photographs.  It seems some guys don't like the idea that I walk down the street taking photos of pretty girls.  They might be afraid I will snap their girlfriend and post it on the internet.  When I first started doing this quite a few folks raised hell with me and some still do, although not as often.
Title: Re: Athens Street Shots, Part II
Post by: Airy on September 19, 2016, 17:21:34
Then try to depict ugly guys or plain buildings: reactions are worse,  because people cannot figure out why you are shooting! I speak from experience...
Title: Re: Athens Street Shots, Part II
Post by: MFloyd on September 19, 2016, 17:36:53
Ron makes a lovely picture of three girls having a rest and a smoke.  And what are most comments about ?: "smoking is baaaad !!!" Do we have a bunch of hygienists here ? People who know how other should behave ? Another expression of a "socialist paradise" ? Where a few will dictate what's good or bad.  Come on !!!!
Title: Re: Athens Street Shots, Part II
Post by: Airy on September 19, 2016, 17:43:20
Nope. Cool down. Commenting on the prevalence of smoking (or other habits) is an observation. If you travel, that's the kind of thing that springs into the eye. Not per se a matter of good or bad. And comments need not be restricted to technique (framing, composition, lighting etc.) because we are all, I think, interested by the contents and the subject.
Title: Re: Athens Street Shots, Part II
Post by: MFloyd on September 19, 2016, 17:51:40
.......

By the way, do you know a famous female photographer who is fond of fifties ? (aaah those "f"s)

Are you thinking about Diane "Arbus" Nemerov ?
Title: Re: Athens Street Shots, Part II
Post by: Airy on September 19, 2016, 17:58:42
Sure, but I thought she was a Rolleiflex-fan.
Title: Re: Athens Street Shots, Part II
Post by: MFloyd on September 19, 2016, 18:40:39
Sure, but I thought she was a Rolleiflex-fan.

She abandoned 24x36 in the early sixties for a Mamiya C330 equipped with a magnesium bulb flash.
Title: Re: Athens Street Shots, Part II
Post by: Ron Scubadiver on September 19, 2016, 19:00:51
Nope. Cool down. Commenting on the prevalence of smoking (or other habits) is an observation. If you travel, that's the kind of thing that springs into the eye. Not per se a matter of good or bad. And comments need not be restricted to technique (framing, composition, lighting etc.) because we are all, I think, interested by the contents and the subject.

It sure does vary a lot by location.  In Ljubljana two years ago I almost couldn't stand it.   Macau was one smoky mess.  US smokers go wild when they visit the Caribbean where there are no restrictions.  Smokers still screw up outdoor dining all over Europe, less so in the States.

If my photography inspires social commentary, go for it!
Title: Re: Athens Street Shots, Part II
Post by: Jakov Minić on September 19, 2016, 19:37:27
"Smokers still screw up outdoor dining all over Europe"

Dear All,

Please stop antagonizing groups of people to which you don't belong to!

NG is not only Brand Agnostic we also do not discriminate against: Age, Race, Sex, National Origin, Religion, Disability, Pregnancy, Medical Condition, Marital Status, Sexual Orientation, and certainly not because of what you Eat, Drink or Smoke!

Thank you :)

EDIT:
I just couldn't resist but quote a famous statement and provocative poem written by Pastor Martin Niemöller (1892–1984) :

"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.


Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for the Catholics, and I did not speak out-
Because I was a Protestant.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."
Title: Re: Athens Street Shots, Part II
Post by: MFloyd on September 19, 2016, 20:19:19
👍 Jakov.
Title: Re: Athens Street Shots, Part II
Post by: Airy on September 19, 2016, 21:28:48
Lovely shot Jakov.

However the Niemöller quote is out of scope here. And nobody is discriminiating anybody. Look up a dictionary for discrimination vs. criticism. There may be a fine line, but there is a line all the same. And to quote David Hartman in reverse: I love it when somebody I like quits smoking (but if they keep on, I'm still with them).

Piece and love, bro.

Now, thanks again Ron for providing us with thought-provoking social photography, and nice to look at in addition. Great shot. More of that please.
Title: Re: Athens Street Shots, Part II
Post by: Ron Scubadiver on September 20, 2016, 00:47:55
Jacov, please accept my apologies, but I am very sensitive to smoke.

I love this poem:

"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.


Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for the Catholics, and I did not speak out-
Because I was a Protestant.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."
Title: Re: Athens Street Shots, Part II
Post by: David H. Hartman on September 20, 2016, 01:00:45
Airy,

I had a friend that smoked. He didn't smoke in his own car when I rode with him. Out side he checked the wind direction before lighting up. He was more bother by smokers after he quit than I.

Dave

"Sitting is the new smoking."

The sooner one quites smoking the better their long term health out look will be.