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Images => People, Portraits, Street, PJ & Cityscapes => Topic started by: atpaula on August 06, 2016, 03:38:21

Title: Some old Paris street
Post by: atpaula on August 06, 2016, 03:38:21
Thank you for looking.

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Title: Re: Some old Paris street
Post by: armando_m on August 06, 2016, 05:08:18
what a great series, the last one is my favorite, thanks for sharing it
Title: Re: Some old Paris street
Post by: Jacques Pochoy on August 06, 2016, 11:10:17
Great series and nice B&W tones... :-)
Title: Re: Some old Paris street
Post by: Bjørn Rørslett on August 06, 2016, 11:22:46
Nos. 5 and 10 stand out amongst the other excellent images.
Title: Re: Some old Paris street
Post by: BW on August 06, 2016, 11:33:14
You did a great job while in Paris :) Apart from #5 and 10, I also liked nr 7.
Title: Re: Some old Paris street
Post by: atpaula on August 06, 2016, 14:06:19
Thank you guys.
Paris is a visual feast for me.
Title: Re: Some old Paris street
Post by: bobfriedman on August 07, 2016, 01:00:02
the last one is my favorite as well.. all in all, quite excellent photography.
Title: Re: Some old Paris street
Post by: atpaula on August 07, 2016, 03:26:44
the last one is my favorite as well.. all in all, quite excellent photography.

Thank you Robert.
 ;)
Title: Re: Some old Paris street
Post by: Les Olson on August 07, 2016, 11:33:17

Nice pictures - but you need to be careful because publishing 6 (and probably 5) may constitute both a civil wrong and a criminal offence under French privacy law; depending where the people in 6 were it may have been a criminal offence to take the photograph.  The other photographs are probably OK because the individuals are not "isolated and recognisable". 

The take home message is that in many European countries the often-repeated statement, based on US law, that there is no expectation of privacy if you are in a public place, is just wrong.  For anyone who reads French the law is set out at https://www.service-public.fr/particuliers/vosdroits/F32103 and more fully at https://www.cnil.fr/fr/lutilisation-de-limage-des-personnes-0

 

Title: Re: Some old Paris street
Post by: MFloyd on August 18, 2016, 08:06:44
Although not perfect from a (classical) composition point of view, I like very much No 6.

NB: do you know that it is not allowed to photograph the Tour Eiffel during the night, as there is a copyright on the lighting ?  Another stupidity in the so called country of Human Rights.
Title: Re: Some old Paris street
Post by: golunvolo on August 18, 2016, 19:25:34
The broken symmetry in 2# is works very well for me in a frame otherwise ornate and almost mirror-like.
  5# again broken in the middle but this time one a negative of the other: black dressed woman in the blackside of the frame and viceversa. Love it. Yin and yang my friend, in the streets of Paris.
  6# with the two obvious and the many not so obvious people, despairing in the background, fading reflections, facing many directions, into...oblivion? Strong, even if illegal.
  10# arrange in layers with many shapes, depth, contrast, lighting...a feast leading to the musician
  What a vision of Paris you bring with you.
    Thanks for sharing
Title: Re: Some old Paris street
Post by: pluton on August 19, 2016, 06:26:21
The shots are outstanding as composition and reportage.  I question the use of full black in the shadow areas, particularly in 5, 9, and 10.   
Title: Re: Some old Paris street
Post by: Les Olson on August 19, 2016, 11:53:57
Although not perfect from a (classical) composition point of view, I like very much No 6.

NB: do you know that it is not allowed to photograph the Tour Eiffel during the night, as there is a copyright on the lighting ?  Another stupidity in the so called country of Human Rights.

The issue is that in France, unlike some other countries, copyright is unaffected by public display of a work.  So in France any work of art is in exactly the same position as the lighting display on the Eiffel Tower: unless it is fair use, you cannot photograph it and the fact that it is publicly displayed is irrelevant.  Except for buildings and works incorporated in buildings, that is also the law in the USA.  It is only in Britain and a few other countries that you can photograph any work on permanent public display. 

However, you can photograph publicly displayed copyright works in both France and the USA if that is incidental to a photograph of the area as a whole.

Another important aspect of French copyright law - which should be imitated everywhere - is strong "moral rights of authors".  These rights, unlike copyright, are perpetual and inalienable.  They give authors the right to withdraw a work from sale over a copyright owner's objections and to prevent use of their work including by copyright owners in a way that is demeaning or derogatory. 
Title: Re: Some old Paris street
Post by: Anirban Halder on August 19, 2016, 12:51:34
Beautiful series Aguinaldo. Each photos are very well thought through. I very much like what you see, especially #2.
Title: Re: Some old Paris street
Post by: atpaula on August 19, 2016, 13:48:09
The broken symmetry in 2# is works very well for me in a frame otherwise ornate and almost mirror-like.
  5# again broken in the middle but this time one a negative of the other: black dressed woman in the blackside of the frame and viceversa. Love it. Yin and yang my friend, in the streets of Paris.
  6# with the two obvious and the many not so obvious people, despairing in the background, fading reflections, facing many directions, into...oblivion? Strong, even if illegal.
  10# arrange in layers with many shapes, depth, contrast, lighting...a feast leading to the musician
  What a vision of Paris you bring with you.
    Thanks for sharing

Thank you so much for this flattening comment golunvolo.
Title: Re: Some old Paris street
Post by: atpaula on August 19, 2016, 13:50:59
Thank you all for the useful comments guys, although I'm feeling like a criminal after taking some kind of pictures in Paris.
I've photographed the tower at night so many times!!!!!
Title: Re: Some old Paris street
Post by: Jacques Pochoy on August 19, 2016, 15:32:41
Well there's the law, but there is the interpretation of the law. A photographer, recently had is pictures from the Parisian Metro challenged  and at the end he did win, when shooting in the Metro isn't allowed and shooting people neither !

The real aim of these laws are not to find yourself, your kids, you family, on a commercial poster (publicity) or worse, on yoghurt packs sold all over the world. Most Parisian don't care, unless they are not with their legit spouse or should be at work (many examples with TV viewing public at Roland Garros tennis event) :-)
Title: Re: Some old Paris street
Post by: Les Olson on August 20, 2016, 09:32:50
Well there's the law, but there is the interpretation of the law. A photographer, recently had is pictures from the Parisian Metro challenged  and at the end he did win, when shooting in the Metro isn't allowed and shooting people neither !

The real aim of these laws are not to find yourself, your kids, you family, on a commercial poster (publicity) or worse, on yoghurt packs sold all over the world. Most Parisian don't care, unless they are not with their legit spouse or should be at work (many examples with TV viewing public at Roland Garros tennis event) :-)

Most people don't care, but some do - I have been asked just about politely by people in public places if I was photographing them (I wasn't).  There is a sense among the French that a man ought to be able to have a quiet drink on a cafe terrace with his mistress without worrying about being photographed.

It is also true that the law is vague and the French courts have not clarified it.  There was the case of Francois-Marie Banier and his book Perdre le Tete; a woman who was, IIRC, a fashion publicist was shown in the book without her consent and she sued.  The court's decision said that the public interest in artistic creation outweighed her right to control her image, but the judges hinted that a key factor was that the photographs were taken during her work as a fashion publicist, and someone whose job is to create publicity cannot complain when they succeed.  (The parallel here with the UK courts' decision in the case of JK Rowling's son is clear).  But then there was the case of Yan Morvan and his book Gang Story, in which a man who was no longer associated with gangs but who had been photographed without his consent some years earlier when he was a gang member successfully sued, and Morvan was fined and the book was pulped.  So it seems that the decisive consideration may be whether the person photographed has what the courts feel is a legitimate reason to object.