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Title: Insomnia
Post by: BW on July 14, 2016, 11:28:47
On rear occasions, usually during summer, I develop insomnia. To tired to do some serious photography, to excited to fall asleep. Raving about with the Df and a 50 mm seem to provide a a decent middle ground. Watching other creatures relax might toss me into lala land. Well, maybe next night... ::)
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on July 14, 2016, 11:32:14
Amazing.
Adorable.
Lovely.
Inspiring.

Thank you.
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Post by: Jakov Minić on July 14, 2016, 12:52:39
I am all for blur circles and sleep :)
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Post by: BW on July 14, 2016, 13:40:21
If sleep dont come tonight, I will start to harvest the mighty crop of Psillocybe fungi on my fields. They would surely take me to lala land :)
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Post by: John Geerts on July 14, 2016, 17:10:50
Very nice, Børge.

It is said that counting (and photographing) sheep is very effective in curing Insomnia  ;)
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on July 14, 2016, 17:52:42
Psilos are very intersting.

You might start to talk to the horses and sing a long.
Title: Re: Insomnia
Post by: BW on July 14, 2016, 18:04:32
That might have been interesting Frank, but I think I would stay away from a Psilo based diett for now. My brain is perfectly capable of messing up on its own :)
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Post by: Tristin on July 14, 2016, 23:36:51
The secod image is gorgeous Børge!   What lens was used?  The distortion in the oof gives it a fantastical look!
Title: Re: Insomnia
Post by: BW on July 14, 2016, 23:53:04
I used the 50 1,2 ais, due to the available light at 4 o'clock in the morning.
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Post by: Tristin on July 15, 2016, 17:59:15
I used the 50 1,2 ais, due to the available light at 4 o'clock in the morning.

Thought so, what a lens!
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Post by: ColinM on July 15, 2016, 22:21:59
Thanks for sharing Borge.
Whereabouts did you take these?
And what time of night were they taken.

And how come you have psilocybin out so early in the summer?
Title: Re: Insomnia
Post by: Frank Fremerey on July 15, 2016, 23:57:17
The Guardian sheds some light on Insomnia scientifically:

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/jul/15/shuffle-thoughts-sleep-oliver-burkeman
Title: Re: Insomnia
Post by: BW on July 16, 2016, 09:09:34
Thats essentially how my brain works during the nights for the moment Frank. The trouble is that my brain is trying to connect this random thoughts. I belive its going away sooner or later but its an interesting state of mind. You never know what thought the the brain come up with next, and it give me lots of ideas :)
Colin, these pictures are taken at 63°26′25″ N  11°2′27″ E and here these little "buggers" start appearing in july and go on until the snow comes. I have never tried to ingest them and hopefully no one will. If I need enhanced colors and emotions I fix it in Photoshop ;)
Title: Re: Insomnia
Post by: Frank Fremerey on July 16, 2016, 09:33:06
Børge: I sit down and write, writre, write until my brain and my heart are empty. Then I can sleep.
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Post by: elsa hoffmann on July 16, 2016, 09:45:24
The Guardian sheds some light on Insomnia scientifically:

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/jul/15/shuffle-thoughts-sleep-oliver-burkeman

Interesting - will be tried. I go thru patches sleeping 3 - 4 ours only and it is very tiring. Also - I find if my energy levels are depleted - I cant function emotionally and that effects sleep.

On the bright side - I love the horses - I also like blur circles and S(H)eep  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Insomnia
Post by: BW on July 16, 2016, 10:08:18
I find it more effective photographing sheep than counting them :) IR capture
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Post by: HCS on July 16, 2016, 11:04:57
Børge, this one (#15) is awesome!
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on July 16, 2016, 21:15:58
Børge, this one (#15) is awesome!

+1
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Post by: ColinM on July 17, 2016, 22:52:30
Great sheep too Børge.

Meanwhile you and Elsa can maybe try finding your K1 and HP 8 acupuncture points and give them some gentle sustained pressure for a few minutes. HP8 is easy, however the K1 points can involve a bit of twisting, but the end result is pleasantly calming.

I can generally fall to sleep reliably but often wake up in the night. These two points often work for me and I just feel tired and drop off afterwards.

I'm happy to visit clients and do a Shiatsu treatment. You guys live a bit further away than I'm used to, but maybe we could work something out on the site fares....?
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Post by: armando_m on July 17, 2016, 23:27:47
counting my breaths usually puts me back to sleep, if my brain is more sttuborn then writing a list and counting breaths does the trick

wonderful horses portraits :)
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Post by: elsa hoffmann on July 18, 2016, 05:27:57
Great sheep too Børge.

Meanwhile you and Elsa can maybe try finding your K1 and HP 8 acupuncture points and give them some gentle sustained pressure for a few minutes. HP8 is easy, however the K1 points can involve a bit of twisting, but the end result is pleasantly calming.

I can generally fall to sleep reliably but often wake up in the night. These two points often work for me and I just feel tired and drop off afterwards.

I'm happy to visit clients and do a Shiatsu treatment. You guys live a bit further away than I'm used to, but maybe we could work something out on the site fares....?

Colin - I will send my address, and you let me know when to expect you. I have no trouble falling asleep - staying asleep is the issue :)
Title: Re: Insomnia
Post by: BW on July 18, 2016, 10:45:23
Actually the last two nights I have had some sleep, due to heavy rain. The sound of the rain feel calming and hypnotic. Another trick is to imagine falling thru a dark universe, but that tend to work best during the dark season when little light is present.
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Post by: elsa hoffmann on July 18, 2016, 10:46:18
BW - impressive.... (the bird - not your thoughts haha)
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Post by: rosko on July 18, 2016, 11:02:10
The B&W pic of horses is really good.

And I love the night one too !

Splendid ! ;)
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Post by: Jakov Minić on July 18, 2016, 11:09:34
Børge makes spectacular images.
The overblown sheep and the night shot are super!
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Post by: Bjørn Rørslett on July 18, 2016, 11:42:22
I had trouble not falling in sleep when going through this thread :D

Keep them coming, Børge.
Title: Re: Insomnia
Post by: Frank Fremerey on July 18, 2016, 14:56:57
Actually the last two nights I have had some sleep, due to heavy rain. The sound of the rain feel calming and hypnotic. Another trick is to imagine falling thru a dark universe, but that tend to work best during the dark season when little light is present.

I had two exceptional nights, waking up at 3:00 staying at my desk till 6:30, sleeping till 7:30 having breakfast.

Work at night is mostly undisturbed by anything. good.
Title: Re: Insomnia
Post by: BW on July 18, 2016, 15:45:01
Frank, at least you got something out the hours you were awake. I remember the jabiru night shot. Its from Brazil. Someone showed me the nest, but I didnt care to take a shot during daylight, because I previsualized the scene with the nightsky as a backdrop. I returned the following night and got this shot. The guides now take clients routinely to this spot in the darkness, so they can photograph the same scene. I never understood why photographers strive to get the same shots? So mindnumbingly boring...
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Post by: armando_m on July 18, 2016, 17:13:12
Really like the tree and the stars!
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Post by: Tristin on July 18, 2016, 18:42:03
I have had issues with sleep for most my life, but found in the last few years that diphenhydramine hydrochloride (benadryl) actually works for me.  It can be purchased packaged either as a sleep aid or allergy medicine, 50mg does the trick for me.  More makes my back hurt.   Strange.  Best part is it's cheap and widely available.

Loving the images :-)
Title: Re: Insomnia
Post by: Frank Fremerey on July 18, 2016, 20:02:01
Frank, at least you got something out the hours you were awake. I remember the jabiru night shot. Its from Brazil. Someone showed me the nest, but I didnt care to take a shot during daylight, because I previsualized the scene with the nightsky as a backdrop. I returned the following night and got this shot. The guides now take clients routinely to this spot in the darkness, so they can photograph the same scene. I never understood why photographers strive to get the same shots? So mindnumbingly boring...

You are so right.
Title: Re: Insomnia
Post by: BW on July 18, 2016, 21:03:34
I remember a medicine I used to take as kid. It was some kind of allrgy medicine that was suppose to relieve itching because of eczema. It knocked me out like I was unconsious. I belive it was the same medicine you refer to. But tonight I think I'll just stick to roaming the fields, since the weather seem to have improved :)
Title: Re: Insomnia
Post by: Akira on July 19, 2016, 02:40:49
Børge, sorry about your problem of insomnia.  But, judging from your images posted here in NG so far, I don't think it has any negative influence on your photography, even though it may slow you down.  I love this last image (daylight synch?): its atmosphere, lighting, purple flower...
Title: Re: Insomnia
Post by: golunvolo on July 19, 2016, 05:00:40
Børge, I was about to say "sorry" about your insomnia but then I saw what you do with your extra time...  ::)


   The calmness, solitude and probably concentration -less noise and movement around- looks like helps a lot wity your creativity. Unusual light intensity and sources as well. Please, if you feel good, keep on going!

 
Title: Re: Insomnia
Post by: elsa hoffmann on July 19, 2016, 07:03:02
Last night I dreamt myself awake 3 times. Now I feel like death warmed up. I believe the world's bio- rhythms /equilibrium or whatever you believe it has - is upside down and this simply means it affects us humans too. A changing faze is challenging. (and the world is in a changing faze)
The human brain/mind is complex - and sometimes the only time it gets to rest/heal/relax is when you sleep, and you (the human) isn't forcing your mind to be busy. It takes over and does what minds and brains does best. The body doesnt like that part. Does anyone even understand what I am saying  ;D
Title: Re: Insomnia
Post by: BW on July 19, 2016, 09:07:23
Im sorry, but I never intended to imply that my temporary insomnia, is a real problem. Compared to the problems that afflict many people these days, me not sleeping very well during a few summer weeks, is nothing worth mentioning. And much less something I want others to feel sorry about. I try to occupy my restless mind with photography in world where many cannot afford to rest, just like Elsa suggest. Im not even sure I want a cure for it  :)
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Post by: John Geerts on July 19, 2016, 09:37:39
Great shot of the 'plant',  Børge

Sleep, or non-sleep, is part of life, and creativity. ;)  Tomorrow full moon, always creating a kind of unrest.
Title: Re: Insomnia
Post by: Jakov Minić on July 19, 2016, 09:45:37
Børge, I am certain you make these images in your sleep :)
Title: Re: Insomnia
Post by: BW on July 19, 2016, 10:09:20
Børge, I am certain you make these images in your sleep :)
I do, lots of them. But getting them from dream state and on to the sensor, always possess som minor problems ;) I guess in the near future it might be possible to depict your dreams, but I feel confident that Nikon won't be the innovator ;D
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Post by: elsa hoffmann on July 19, 2016, 10:42:36
I do full shoots in my sleep - then I am woken up to face the horror of the results haha
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on July 19, 2016, 11:19:24
It might be Insomnia to you, it is sure a cornucopia of wonderful photos for the rest of the world.
Title: Re: Insomnia
Post by: BW on July 19, 2016, 12:00:57
I do full shoots in my sleep - then I am woken up to face the horror of the results haha
Thaths the minor problem I was talking about ;D
Frank, my keepers/crap ratio are still are still negative :)
Title: Re: Insomnia
Post by: ColinM on July 20, 2016, 22:17:52
...., judging from your images posted here in NG so far, I don't think it has any negative influence on your photography...

As Akira and others have already mentioned, I wonder if you've actually found the gold in your dilemma.
Both your images and the discussion you've stimulated are ample evidence of this.
Title: Re: Insomnia
Post by: ColinM on July 20, 2016, 22:27:24
. I believe the world's bio- rhythms /equilibrium or whatever you believe it has - is upside down and this simply means it affects us humans too. A changing faze is challenging. (and the world is in a changing faze)

Dunno about that. However many people are trying to meet the demands of what they think the Western world "requires" of them. Not all of that is helpful and insomnia is just one of many signs when natural limits are exceeded.

Does anyone even understand what I am saying  ;D

Better stop now as I'm way off topic!
Title: Re: Insomnia
Post by: BW on July 20, 2016, 22:41:03
This topic is designed for off topic Colin ;D
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Post by: golunvolo on July 20, 2016, 22:53:55
This topic is designed for off topic Colin ;D
8) 8) 8) ;D
Title: Re: Insomnia
Post by: Frank Fremerey on July 21, 2016, 06:07:45
Frank, my keepers/crap ratio are still are still negative :)

Mathematics seems not to be your stronghold in waking nights?

+/+
-/-
-/+
+/-

????
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Post by: elsa hoffmann on July 21, 2016, 07:01:18
exactly
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Post by: BW on July 21, 2016, 07:23:39
Frank, a ratio less than 1 than one has to be negative ;D Elsa, posting these kind of pictures does not enhance sleep :)
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on July 21, 2016, 07:46:50
Frank, a ratio less than 1 than one has to be negative ;D Elsa, posting these kind of pictures does not enhance sleep :)

I do see a whole world beween Zero and One!
Title: Re: Insomnia
Post by: golunvolo on July 21, 2016, 07:50:14
Yes Elsa!!!

 I think that to be negative, should be less than zero...
Title: Re: Insomnia
Post by: BW on July 21, 2016, 07:53:45
Well, then photograpy and mathematics just dont add up ;)
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on July 21, 2016, 08:00:39
Well, then photograpy and mathematics just dont add up ;)

you could not be righter ***ggg***

The value of the photo is often in the emotional effect it has on the beholder

Emotions are mostly incalculable.
Title: Re: Insomnia
Post by: Les Olson on July 21, 2016, 09:05:57


2am is because humans are relatively small, thin-skinned and taste good to big cats.  Uninterrupted sleep on a savanna where the apex predators are nocturnal is not a good idea.     
Title: Re: Insomnia
Post by: BW on July 21, 2016, 09:07:01
The whole is more than the sum of its parts :)
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on July 21, 2016, 09:58:24
Especially in multiplication and division ...