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Gear Talk => Processing & Publication => Topic started by: elsa hoffmann on May 30, 2016, 15:48:20

Title: Panorama size
Post by: elsa hoffmann on May 30, 2016, 15:48:20: Is there such a thing as a standard panorama size?

eg 900 x 500 or 900 x 400 (dont get stuck on the 900 - its just an example)

ratios?
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Post by: Fons Baerken on May 30, 2016, 15:54:00: 16x9 is preset crop mode in ps
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Post by: Ron Scubadiver on May 30, 2016, 16:03:37: Cinema is 2.4:1
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on May 30, 2016, 17:11:36: equirectangular is always 2 wide : 1 high (360° x 180°)

This is one of my first panos ever: https://www.fotocommunity.de/photo/geraeteschuppen-gespuer-fuer-licht/3237515
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Post by: elsa hoffmann on May 30, 2016, 18:41:23: Thank you guys - much appreciated - Frank - cool image!
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Post by: MFloyd on May 30, 2016, 19:36:05: Panorama with people i.e. taking two, three pictures in a row, can confuse even the better panorama assembly softwares (Lr, Ps). I invite you to discover some inconsistencies....

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7632/16611986424_168e3c5087_k.jpg)
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Post by: elsa hoffmann on May 30, 2016, 19:54:25: mr Floyd - you are referring to stitching then
I will probably just be cropping in a panorama format for use on a website. a bit boring but that will work for my purpose.
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Post by: MFloyd on May 30, 2016, 20:13:10: In that case, Ron's 2.4:1 is the right proportion. Another one is 1.85:1 (more European). But stitching photos together is big fun, I can only recommend you 😊
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Post by: elsa hoffmann on May 30, 2016, 20:22:22: Quote from: MFloyd on May 30, 2016, 20:13:10
In that case, Ron's 2.4:1 is the right proportion. Another one is 1.85:1 (more European). But stitching photos together is big fun, I can only recommend you 😊

I absolutely agree - I should be doing more of that.
I am currently building a website for a Private Game Reserve - and need to use some of my own images - so I have to crop them to fit. Hence the question.
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Post by: Akira on May 30, 2016, 20:46:14: I guess that the panorama format is mostly decided by the hardware limitations (fixed film gate) or by the scientific purposes (as pointed out by Frank).

Considering that the panorama image had existed way before the photography was invented, you could decide the format according to your artistic taste and the way you like to present the image in your website.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panorama
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Post by: elsa hoffmann on May 30, 2016, 20:50:03: You are right Akira
I am very boring in that I never crop out of the standard (I dont even go square) I stick to the printing standard for some reason (still need to find the reason)
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Post by: Lorne on May 30, 2016, 21:50:09: Hi Elsa,
There is no standard aspect ratio for a panorama.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspect_ratio_(image)

Motion pictures started going wide screen to try to combat early television.16:9 is modestly wide and has the advantage of filling (most) tv/computer screens. For many of my photographs I pre-visualize them in camera.

Printed images can be any ratio you choose, but the subject will usually tell you what works best.

Don't forget about vertical panos, though they tend to be more difficult to create and enjoy.
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Post by: elsa hoffmann on May 30, 2016, 22:13:31: Quote from: Lorne on May 30, 2016, 21:50:09
Hi Elsa,

Don't forget about vertical panos, though they tend to be more difficult to create and enjoy.

now there's an interesting thought..... have you done any and have you got any to show?
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Post by: ColinM on May 31, 2016, 14:27:46: Quote from: elsa hoffmann on May 30, 2016, 22:13:31
Vertical panos - now there's an interesting thought..... have you done any and have you got any to show?

Taken some time ago in the Eden Project giant greenhouses, this was the only way I could fit this Travellers Palm in
I should re-do the stitching really, but just wanted to show there must be plenty of other applications

(https://nikongear.net/revival/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pbase.com%2Fcelidh%2Fimage%2F32861954%2Foriginal.jpg&hash=75e8e191db40b394e724c853745bf4d4e5c80f8c)
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Post by: Bjørn Rørslett on May 31, 2016, 14:46:39: Quote from: ColinM on May 31, 2016, 14:27:46
.... just wanted to show there must be plenty of other applications

While vertical panoramas aren't as widely applicable as their horizontal counterparts, they do excel in some areas. Examples are any kind of running water, water falls, landscape details, light houses, forests, ..., in fact any situation in which subject relationships are manifested along the vertical not horizontal axis.

Composing the image in the narrow vertical format is more challenging, though. It frequently feels 'cramped' often in an uncomfortable manner. A quick survey showed at most 5% of my panoramic pictures are in the vertical direction.
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Post by: elsa hoffmann on May 31, 2016, 14:52:20: I can certainly see the use for vertical pics - right subject - right place.
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Post by: Akira on May 31, 2016, 15:02:42: In the Chinese and Japanese culture, the narrow vertical framing is rather a common practice, as proven by countless scrolls of ink paintings and calligraphy.
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on May 31, 2016, 17:39:21: Elsa: for a website I would ask my customer for a reference page they really like and take my measure there.