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Images => Themes, Portfolio Series, PaW, or PaM => Topic started by: Airy on April 05, 2016, 22:04:06
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Classical ballet has never been my cup of tea. I however appreciate the efforts made by ballet dancers to annihilate gravity (most contemporary ballet is comparatively down-to-earth, in the original meaning of the term).
While such efforts are vain, photography (still shots) manages to make such illusions more credible. Besides, ballet is an interesting subject for developing photographic skills (anticipation, manual focussing skills...) with a fair guarantee of pleasant results, after having culled those 90% of missed shots. Remember that ballerinas only want to look good, and have a narrow understanding of what "looking good" is all about.
The titles of the thread is obviously a pun on the other BIF (like "birds"), which is another photographic genre. With ballerinas at least, you'll shoot in the dry.
With "in flight", I do not necessarily invite to display shots where no body part touches the dance floor. Just those where indeed g seems to be much less than 9.81 m/s².
Df, 24-70/2.8 at 24mm and f/5.6, 1/100s
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Classic ballet is also not my thing - having said that - I would not mind shooting it.
Sadly I havent -
I like your shot and the motion
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Then Elsa you should offer yourself a treat and spend a day in a ballet studio. These must be in sufficient supply near your place. You'll have to find advanced courses (beginners don't fly) and maybe get a WA zoom. Ballet is the only reason I keep that 24-70/2.8 in my inventory (the other one would be weddings). Short FLs and lightning fast AF are needed (otherwise, better go MF).
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A few more, from another session (today). The 24-70 at work and, yes, the 300 PF, which I confirm is a gorgeous portrait lens.
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Here's the 300 PF contribution, both on moving and static subjects :
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D800 1/1000 45mm f4.5 during a practice session
(https://armando-m.smugmug.com/People/Danza-2014-06-07/i-rFPg6Hn/0/O/_DSC6026-Edit-Edit-Edit-Edit.jpg)
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The perfect Grand Jeté...
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Armando, unusual point of view. It works better with the upper half of the body in this movement but I find it interesting nonetheless. It is a pretty good Grand Jeté...
Here another case of BIF. Warm up coincidence:
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Yanelis in the desert and at the studio. I should have more of this somewhere...
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Impressed by all of these shots.
Wanted to be professional dancer when I was 19.
Now I am 49.
I still like to dance.
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Remember that ballerinas only want to look good, and have a narrow understanding of what "looking good" is all about.
It is a wonderful series and I like the title! Actually, the "flight" element differentiates it from many other photos seen in this genre.
I wonder of a 'bold' BW conversion for # and #2 would have worked even better. Might be a matter of taste.
May I ask what you mean by the sentence I quoted to avoid any misinterpretation on my side?
Armando: That is a spectacular shot with that black background, lighting, and expression. With that shutter speed it looks like the ballerina is hanging in the air. The others ones show motion
Paco: Those are truly amazing: there is a story in every photo. I love the composition, the movement, the way the lines and/or background provide context, and the PP
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As soon as I wake up I do exactly as Yanelis does. Just to get the blood stream flowing ::)
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As soon as I wake up I do exactly as Yanelis does. Just to get the blood stream flowing ::)
Ah, was that you on the beach this morning?
;-)
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Ah, was that you on the beach this morning?
;-)
Yes, have you noticed how sexy I am ;D
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May I ask what you mean by the sentence I quoted to avoid any misinterpretation on my side?
From experience : ballerinas crave for perfection. To become a keeper (for them), the attitude, step, whatever must be perfect, i.e. according to received tradition. Transition states are not interesting. Movement is not interesting. The only possible picture of a grand jeté is taken at the moment both legs are perfectly aligned and parallel to the ground, and it must be taken from the side, the only one that would be shown to the audience. Remindful of old Aegyptian painting. An one wish the glorious movement would last forever, so the picture must appear frozen; motion blur is not welcome.
I made the same experience with ballerinas and ballet masters. The only thing that may be unacademic is the lighting, the exposure... but don't play with the geometry. Forget about wide angles.
The stern self-inflicted discipline is passed onto poor Mr. photographer, who is by nature more self-indulgent.
A bit frustrating, and that's why I focus on rehearsals, where the expectations are less.
Ah and by the way, the facial expression must be OK too (cool-neutral). At least they manage to look concentrated rather than stressed, so that's a minor issue.
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Shooting gymnasts is similar, they will pick the slightest defect in their position and reject the image, even if for us as photographers it may look spectacular
The shot I show of the jump - Grand Jeté (nice to learn something new) was from a diagonal perspective, as this was done in the photo studio and only using a diagonal she had enough space for the jump.
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Jakov, I didn't expect anything less from you ;D
Airy is right. Technique must be perfect in any ballet image -if you want them to like it- It also works the other way, they may like a crapy-blury-dark image if they are in it the way the want to. Don´t show them... :)
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From experience : ballerinas crave for perfection. To become a keeper (for them), the attitude, step, whatever must be perfect, i.e. according to received tradition. Transition states are not interesting. Movement is not interesting. The only possible picture of a grand jeté is taken at the moment both legs are perfectly aligned and parallel to the ground, and it must be taken from the side, the only one that would be shown to the audience. Remindful of old Aegyptian painting. An one wish the glorious movement would last forever, so the picture must appear frozen; motion blur is not welcome.
I made the same experience with ballerinas and ballet masters. The only thing that may be unacademic is the lighting, the exposure... but don't play with the geometry. Forget about wide angles.
The stern self-inflicted discipline is passed onto poor Mr. photographer, who is by nature more self-indulgent.
A bit frustrating, and that's why I focus on rehearsals, where the expectations are less.
Ah and by the way, the facial expression must be OK too (cool-neutral). At least they manage to look concentrated rather than stressed, so that's a minor issue.
Thank you. That. Is very helpful. I will refrain from trying to photograph ballerinas!
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Come on Peter, in fact it is pure bliss.
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Not exactly a ballerina, but it defies gravity. A modest tribute to Philippe Halsman:
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/599/20190913933_4730d049c4_k.jpg)
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And a talented shadow too
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Great capture MFloyd!
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Not exactly in flight, but about to take off. I had to fight with terrible lighting (effective for the public, but not pleasant for photography - damned near-monochromatic LED projectors...)
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Tough light. Might be a case for BW, just keeping the channel which has the best exposure.
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Airy, the light in the first one makes her look as part of the painting in the back
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https://www.instagram.com/reel/DGHPEEkuvw4/?igsh=MTdsYWN6aHJnbjE0bA==
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https://www.instagram.com/reel/DGHPEEkuvw4/?igsh=MTdsYWN6aHJnbjE0bA==
Some very nice shots in here. It has also understanding of the work. Thanks for sharing it
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In a less dramatic tone, this kids are talented! They just jump around as soon as they see a camera, having fun.
She just turn 14 years old.