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Gear Talk => Camera Talk => Topic started by: RobOK on April 04, 2016, 03:15:49

Title: Shipping Df to Nikon - how?
Post by: RobOK on April 04, 2016, 03:15:49
I need my DF cleaned and adjusted and even though I am a long time Nikon customer (D70, D300, Df) I have never interacted with support. I'm in the US. Do I call them first and then how do I package it up? Should I send it with a lens? Any other tips or lessons learned are appreciated. How long should I expect to wait?

Thanks,
Rob
Title: Re: Shipping Df to Nikon - how?
Post by: richardHaw on April 04, 2016, 04:17:49
take a picture of your items before you seal the box <- this is very handy just in case somebody tries to screw you later on :o :o :o
Title: Re: Shipping Df to Nikon - how?
Post by: Andrea B. on April 04, 2016, 04:48:05
Rob, go to nikonusa.com, then click Service & Support. There you will find a link to schedule a repair. You fill out a form, submit it and then you will get a shipping label and enclosure to print. After sending in your camera, you will be able to check the status of your service online. Nikon service in the US usually takes a while. 3 weeks maybe? You have to check in online to approve the proposed service after Nikon has looked at your camera to determine the service level.
Title: Re: Shipping Df to Nikon - how?
Post by: pluton on April 04, 2016, 07:25:27
Take a picture of the item(s) AND how they are packed.  Use a good box, and bubble wrap is your friend.  Tape the bubble wrap to the camera so it can't vibrate free during transit.  I like to use the fastest shipping I can afford, so it spends the least time in transit.
Fully insure the shipment for the full replacement cost.
Title: Re: Shipping Df to Nikon - how?
Post by: Tristin on April 04, 2016, 17:43:59
Don't send it with a lens, just a body cap.  I'm pretty sure you don't need to include the memory card either.
Title: Re: Shipping Df to Nikon - how?
Post by: bjornthun on April 04, 2016, 18:07:15
Definitely remove the memory card. Make a list of and photographs of anything attached to the camera before you wrap it. I don't think you need to or even should include the battery either.
Title: Re: Shipping Df to Nikon - how?
Post by: Akira on April 04, 2016, 18:16:32
As precautionary measure, it is worth following these advices.

That said, it is also worth sending the lens you use the most along with the body, if you want to match a particular lens with your particular camera.  It is done on the firmware basis, not in the user-updatable fimware, but on the deeper level.  After the calibration, you are no more in need to fine-tune the AF from the camera menu.  I've done that several times and am very satisfied and pleased with the results.
Title: Re: Shipping Df to Nikon - how?
Post by: bjornthun on April 04, 2016, 18:36:23
Akira, as far as I know, Nikon doesn't let users update any lens firmware at all, strangely enough. Sigma lets you fine tune focus of compatible lenses in firmware yourself, even Nikon mount Sigma lenses, through a USB dock.
Title: Re: Shipping Df to Nikon - how?
Post by: Erik Lund on April 04, 2016, 18:48:40
Because there was so many AF issues with Sigma lenses,,,
Title: Re: Shipping Df to Nikon - how?
Post by: bjornthun on April 04, 2016, 19:34:20
AF operation is only one of several things that can be adressed in firmware updates. Fuji, Olympus, Sony, Panasonic, even Leica and Zeiss will let you update firmware as required.

Sigma will let you fine tune AF even without fw updating to newer versions on certain DSLR lenses.
Title: Re: Shipping Df to Nikon - how?
Post by: Bjørn Rørslett on April 04, 2016, 19:58:31
All Nikons have firmware updates the end user can download and install themselves, so I don't understand your comment.
Title: Re: Shipping Df to Nikon - how?
Post by: Andrea B. on April 04, 2016, 20:22:33
Akira is suggesting to send the most-used lens to be focus-calibrated to the body while the body is on the bench using the bench software. That type of lens-body calibration is not something which can be done with owner-applied firmware either for the lens or for the body. It can only be done on the bench.
Title: Re: Shipping Df to Nikon - how?
Post by: Bjørn Rørslett on April 04, 2016, 20:27:51
The recalls of some Nikkors to update firmware at qualified facilities were done in this manner because the update required electronic components to be altered. Not something you want end users to tinker with.
Title: Re: Shipping Df to Nikon - how?
Post by: Akira on April 04, 2016, 22:31:03
Sorry to be unclear.

Akira is suggesting to send the most-used lens to be focus-calibrated to the body while the body is on the bench using the bench software. That type of lens-body calibration is not something which can be done with owner-applied firmware either for the lens or for the body. It can only be done on the bench.

I didn't know the term "bench software", but Andrea made it clear.  I'm well aware that the firmware of Nikon lenses cannot be updated on the user side.  But the calibration does make big difference.  I had my current D750 and AF-S 50/1.8G calibrated at the local Nikon service, and now even the "green dot" is very reliable, which is confirmed by using my Ai 20/4.0 and Nikkor-Q C 200/4.0.

Thanks, Andrea!
Title: Re: Shipping Df to Nikon - how?
Post by: bjornthun on April 04, 2016, 23:25:29
All Nikons have firmware updates the end user can download and install themselves, so I don't understand your comment.
I and Erik strolled off topic and were discussing lenses for a brief moment.
Title: Re: Shipping Df to Nikon - how?
Post by: Bjørn Rørslett on April 04, 2016, 23:28:27
OK. Got it now.
Title: Re: Shipping Df to Nikon - how?
Post by: RobOK on April 05, 2016, 18:59:02

That said, it is also worth sending the lens you use the most along with the body, if you want to match a particular lens with your particular camera.

Thank you for all advice. Akira's point is what I was wondering about if Nikon does camera to lens calibration together. My most used lens on the DF are probably 24-140 f4, 50 1.8 G and 85 1.8 G, so I might send the zoom in too.

Rob.
Title: Re: Shipping Df to Nikon - how?
Post by: Akira on April 05, 2016, 20:28:16
Thank you for all advice. Akira's point is what I was wondering about if Nikon does camera to lens calibration together. My most used lens on the DF are probably 24-140 f4, 50 1.8 G and 85 1.8 G, so I might send the zoom in too.

Rob.

Rob, I haven't have my bodies to calibrate with a zoom.  If I were you, I might send 85/1.8G with the body, because 85/1.8G appears to be the most critical about the focusing accuracy among the lenses you named.
Title: Re: Shipping Df to Nikon - how?
Post by: Erik Lund on April 05, 2016, 23:08:02
No they don't calibrate a body to match a specific lens, no need for that at all.

Don't be worried too much about stuff like that ;)
Title: Re: Shipping Df to Nikon - how?
Post by: Akira on April 05, 2016, 23:54:02
No they don't calibrate a body to match a specific lens, no need for that at all.

Don't be worried too much about stuff like that ;)

But the reliability of AF has been vastly improved.  Maybe they calibrated both the camera and the lens to the standard individually.  Now I need no in-camera micro-adjustment.
Title: Re: Shipping Df to Nikon - how?
Post by: RobOK on July 13, 2016, 01:39:01
Picking up an older thread of mine... someone suggest APS (http://www.nikoncamerarepair.com), a third party company, to me for camera adjustment. Has anyone used them? To be honest I don't know why I would use them vs. Nikon direct, probably cheaper?

Any thoughts to share?

Thanks,
Rob.