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Gear Talk => Processing & Publication => Topic started by: Ron Scubadiver on March 30, 2016, 17:06:21
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It has been widely reported in the business news that Yahoo is for sale. For those of us here it is relevant as Yahoo owns flickr, one of the most popular internet photo sharing sites. After the present CEO if Yahoo of Marissa Mayer took control there were policy changes at flickr, mainly a reduction in the number of accounts being deleted and an increase in the cost of pro accounts. Activist shareholders have been pushing for change after Ms Mayer's failure to increase earnings and monetize Yahoo's substantial holding of Alibaba shares. Several non core businesses have been shut down. The future of flickr depends on whether it is profitable or not.
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How much? 8)
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Probably still too much, unless your pockets are bottomless ...
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If Flickr does shut down its a nice opportunity to make a fresh start, many of my old images are neither relevant or too low in resolution for todays high res screens.
So, what would be the next best thing?
Couple of basic requirements:
- No compression applied to uploaded file
- No compression on down sized images (Flickr does this)
- No stripping of the Colour Profile (used to be problem in the past on certain hosting sites)
- Full control whom can see and download the images
And a new feature I would like is to control which sites can hotlink to the images so access can be blocked from the forums that I left ;D
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I don't think flickr will go away, but it will change in ways I can't predict. Business "experts" predict Yahoo is a good property for a large media company, ISP or even Microsoft to own.
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Two days too early? ;D
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http://www.dpreview.com/news/5785088732/flickr-may-be-up-for-sale-as-yahoo-board-of-directors-looks-to-sell-web-properties (http://www.dpreview.com/news/5785088732/flickr-may-be-up-for-sale-as-yahoo-board-of-directors-looks-to-sell-web-properties)
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... or even Microsoft to own.
Microsoft tried to buy Yahoo ages ago but was blocked. Is Marco Borries (origin of Star Office, now Open Office & Derivates) still at Yahoo? He is sure a great asset for every company.
I am not so active on flickr anymore although I am Pro since ~2005.
I am more interested in people, exchange, learning than in dumping shots to any site...
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Exactly, I was on Flickr because many of my photo friends were on Flickr many moons ago.
Now I post images on NG, FB, etc with a much bigger coverage so there's no need to use Flickr anymore other than hotlinking my images on NG and other forums.
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What I am finding is on flickr I get a ton of traffic from folks looking at my photos. I have only had a pro account for about 2 weeks and see it's averaging around 9,000 views per day. This is about 10 times what I get on Wordpress. A lot of views doesn't prove anything other than people are looking, but if I had $1 for each one...
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Personally I don't care about the numbers game, just want to share my images with my friends on NG and FB :)
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I am not playing a numbers game. There isn't much that I do to generate views on flickr. They just come, I don't know from where.
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They just come, I don't know from where.
Pretty girls and pretty pictures of earth, is it a surprise that they get a lot of views?
I suspect the amount of groups they are in and the tags help too.
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Pretty girls and pretty pictures of earth, is it a surprise that they get a lot of views?
I suspect the amount of groups they are in and the tags help too.
of course its not surprising Charlie. Ron's images have commercial qualities.
What kind of groups would you be referring to? My nude photos don't get nearly as many views. Maybe because they are selfies?
Ron - if you are good in the tags department - I can use some help please.
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I am pretty basic on tags. Landscapes do nearly as good as girls. I use groups a lot, but they don't take much effort. Since getting stats I have reduced the number of groups I am using. The big scam on flickr is adding huge (tens of thousands) of follows in the hope they will reciprocate. I follow about 250 other accounts and have about 940 following me. Perhaps my images have commercial qualities, perhaps they have comical qualities. Elsa, now I know your secret, nude selfies. Hugs to you, time for me to try that.
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What kind of groups would you be referring to?
Just check one of Ron's images, this image is linked to 57 groups where people subscribe to to view and comment
https://www.flickr.com/photos/57349111@N08/25568997673/in/photostream/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/57349111@N08/25568997673/in/photostream/)
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Just check one of Ron's images, this image is linked to 57 groups where people subscribe to to view and comment
https://www.flickr.com/photos/57349111@N08/25568997673/in/photostream/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/57349111@N08/25568997673/in/photostream/)
ta :)
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Just check one of Ron's images, this image is linked to 57 groups where people subscribe to to view and comment
https://www.flickr.com/photos/57349111@N08/25568997673/in/photostream/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/57349111@N08/25568997673/in/photostream/)
Yes, I use groups as they are an integral feature of flickr. It takes about 2 minutes to add a photo to 60 groups. It isn't much effort and that is why I like flickr. You reach lots of people with very little effort. By the way, 80% of the views are not from groups, which is why I am gradually reducing the number of groups that I am a member of. Overall group activity does not show in your activity feed. One must navigate there to view the images. There is a relatively short half life as things move pages back. I have images that were posted months ago and in only a few groups getting 40 views every day.
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US mobile phone carrier Verizon is said to be readying a bid for "all of Yahoo's web properties." It is speculated they would be the successful bidder because of their wider scope than the others who are investment companies without the ability to achieve synergies without other properties. Verizon presently owns AOL. If "all" has its usual meaning, flickr will wind up under AOL.
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The bids are in and Verizon is rumored to be the winner. Verizon owns AOL so the two businesses are likely to be combined. There are no specifics about the fate of flickr or Yahoo Mail although Verizon offers a premium version of Yahoo Mail to its internet subscribers. Verizon's main business is wireless phone service. It uses CDMA which is incompatible with most networks outside the US. Even so, it is one of the largest providers here and is considered the best for subscribers in rural areas.
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I came to computers and internet too late for AOL and Yahoo...both were already passé. Hopefully Verizon has some purpose in mind, beyond an unexplainable nostalgia for annoying things from 20 years ago.
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Verizon is the winning bidder. They will acquire all of the operating assets of Yahoo leaving behind Yahoo Japan, a stake in AliBaba and a portfolio of patents. No specific mention was made of flickr. My only concern would be changes in policy. Some photo sharing sites do not allow non consensual photographs of people, in effect banning street photography. For me, things got better after Marissa Mayer came in.
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Ron, Yahoo Japan (SoftBank) bought ARM instead, using the capital they gathered by selling the stocks of Alibaba and some other companies.
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Ron, Yahoo Japan (SoftBank) bought ARM instead, using the capital they gathered by selling the stocks of Alibaba and some other companies.
This is one of the things driving the deal. By removing Yahoo's business what remains is a proxy for Alibaba and ARM. I am a bit nervous that flickr could change for the worse, or I would have to change my Yahoo mail address.
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I had been skeptical about Yahoo's security even before it was bought by Softbank. I do have a Yahoo account, but its mail address is only used as my ID to sign in flickr.
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It's not so much the mail address, there's only so much you can do with that. Your email address and your password is what's interesting as many people reuse their passwords. That's why it's a good idea to use a password tool and use that to create strong, individual passwords for each site.
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Verizon's acquisition of Yahoo is moving forward with a $350 million price reduction on account of the data breeches.
https://techcrunch.com/2017/02/21/verizon-knocks-350m-off-yahoo-sale-after-data-breaches-now-valued-at-4-48b/ (https://techcrunch.com/2017/02/21/verizon-knocks-350m-off-yahoo-sale-after-data-breaches-now-valued-at-4-48b/)
There is no word on any changes at Flickr yet. Things over there definitely improved after Marissa Mayer came in.
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As for flickr,
In my mind, it one of the best portals due to the amount of visits it receives, it must be one of the most vital tools to keeping our hobby alive.
It might even be a coal on the fire that is keeping some of our chosen camera brands burning brightly in the commercial world.
Masses of people expressing a interest in viewing images captured by others, novices having a sneaky peak at exif data, looking to learn a little more.
A place where you can see many different presentations a certain piece of equipment can offer.
It was a stepping stone, to my finding NG. It is also a extension to investigate some of the ideas presented to me on NG.
I might visit flickr for 30 minutes a month, but I will always see something to keep me interested.
My latest viewing is the D500+Sigma 500mm f4 HDSM.
"If it aint broke, don't fix it" .
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Stopped paying for my Flickr Pro account, getting really bored with all strange authorization schemes they try to enforce.
Time to move on I guess....
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I am more interested in people, exchange, learning than in dumping shots to any site...
The Flickr groups (forums) have been loosing participation. They are only a shadow of what they were. They have lost the critical number of active participants to be health. I miss the active groups but I haven't been there much myself. The people and exchange of ideas was my reason for sighing up back in 2006 when "The Majestic Green One" returned to PHOTO.net hell bent on destroying his creation.
Dave Hartman
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There is no word on any changes at Flickr yet. Things over there definitely improved after Marissa Mayer came in.
...but unfortunately they got much worse over a period of many months before they finally improved. I feel Flickr is defiantly better now.
I'm lead to believe the security breaches were through a backdoor mandated by the US "Patriot Act" placed in many US sites for US NSA (National Security Administration).
Dave
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My definition of things getting better is Flickr abandoned its attack on what it imagined to be voyeurism. Lots of accounts got deleted for taking photos of strangers unless those strangers were homeless people. My main fear is Flickr could go back to prohibiting publication of photos which do not appear to have the permission of the subject. Some other internet photo sites operate this way, effectively banning street photography.
I stay on Flickr because of traffic, and do I get a ton of it. The forums don't do anything for me.
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The people and exchange of ideas was my reason for sighing up back in 2006 when "The Majestic Green One" returned to PHOTO.net hell bent on destroying his creation.
Dave Hartman
I came late to the digital party, and missed this "Majestic Green One" controversy that you speak of. Care to give a capsule synopsis? It would be 'Flickr relevant', although historical in nature.