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Gear Talk => Processing & Publication => Topic started by: Frank Fremerey on December 14, 2015, 10:53:20
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http://techcrunch.com/2015/12/12/adobes-record-revenue-proves-successful-business-transformation-is-possible/
Adobe's Subscription-model seems to be extremly successful and I pay 8,99 Euro per month now in the second year for Photoshop CC.
I very rarely use Indesign and Acrobat from my CS3 Suite I bought many years ago, so I am not tempted to buy a bigger subscription.
What I like is that I receive updates for the Software and most of these updates made the algorithms faster, meaning I am demotivated to buy a new Desktop Computer, because my 2009-Machine (Core 2 Quad 9550 with 8GB DDR2) is still fully up to the task. This Non-Purchase alone pays for the subsciption-fee.
What is your experience with Adobe-Software or other Subscription based software?
PS: I am quite happy that not everyone has adopted that model. http://www.kolor.com/ makes the best Panoramasoftware on the planet. I paid €118.40 in 2006 plus €141.13 in 2009 and €79.00 in 2015, which is much cheaper than any Subscription model could ever be.
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I instinctively dislike when a product that I have bought at a fixed price becomes a utility, something (like electricity and water) that I will never stop paying for, etc.
In Adobe’s case, despite all the online weeping and gnashing of teeth by users, for me it has been a blessing and probably cheaper. I use most of the Adobe products, and so I was maintaining the Master Edition (or whatever they call it), which was very expensive to initially buy and had expensive upgrades every couple of years.
I need the way the various Adobe products are threaded together so that I can seamlessly switch back and forth from one product to another. Especially with Photoshop and Premiere Pro, I need to slip in and out of these at will. And, as you mention, I like the idea of adding new features as they are ready, rather than wait until the spring of the following year or even later.
I find Adobe Creative Cloud easy to use, easy to update, and it tells me clearly what I have updated and what I can update, and what’s included in the update. I feel that Adobe made the switch at the right time, and it was the right thing to do… for me, and not just for them.
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So far as the Photography plan of Adobe CC is concerned, I'm pretty sasified with the CC. 1,058 JPY (including MwSt) per month is reasonable, considerig that I had used a couple of different software to do what I wanted, and they cost roughly 30,000 JPY which is virtually more expensive, because I needed to upgrade every other year or so.
As part of the campaign, Olympus offered a coupon for the purchaser of their products that enable us to subscribe the Photography plan for 20% less, which makes the CC even more reasonable.
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$10 a month for a software that use to sell at about $750 (Ps + Lr) is a bargain and I'm very satisfied with what I'm getting
Software ("anything") as a Service is a great idea, more and more products will sell like that
It would be nice to get a Camera as a service, pay a monthly fee, get updates when a new model comes out ... :)
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It would be nice to get a Camera as a service, pay a monthly fee, get updates when a new model comes out ... :)
Armando, that's a good idea. Actually I sometimes calculate the per-month cost of my cameras and lenses whenever I sell them to replace, which should be around 30-40 USD and is not too bad.
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This is the biggest con since Windows running on the back of DOS.
All Photoshop tools are the same tools since version 3.1 and all new stuff is basically new clothes and an action running under the hood like for the healing brush and similar stuff.
All you need is to understand Color wheel and harmony - Curves - D&B and Masking.
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I agree with Armando and Akira regarding camera bodies.
I wouldn't mind paying a monthly fee for the D5 and upgrade it automatically for the subsequent models :)
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It would be nice to get a Camera as a service, pay a monthly fee, get updates when a new model comes out ... :)
In the US, iPhones are starting to be sold that way (maybe other brands too), where you basically pay a lease charge, like leasing a car. And at the end of two years you turn the phone back in.
As with leasing cars, the bankers behind the scenes have figured out a way to make money (probably more money) and many consumers feel like they are getting a step up in what they can afford.
If I could lease a high end Nikon body, I think I would go for it! (depending on the lease payment).
As to the OP... I was against the idea originally of monthly payments, but I do feel like Adobe is now able to roll out features incrementally. For my company I bought O365, which is MS Office and Sharepoint sold as a monthly fee. It is becoming the more common model.
Rob.
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All Photoshop tools are the same tools since version 3.1 and all new stuff is basically new clothes and an action running under the hood like for the healing brush and similar stuff. All you need is to understand Color wheel and harmony - Curves - D&B and Masking.
The best investment in Photoshop for sure is working through one of Dan Margulis books and really understand the inner workings of Gamuts and Channels, and that selections and masks are basicly the same thing...
http://www.moderncolorworkflow.com/dan-margulis
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The best investment in Photoshop for sure is working through one of Dan Margulis books and really understand the inner workings of Gamuts and Channels, and that selections and masks are basicly the same thing...
http://www.moderncolorworkflow.com/dan-margulis
Nice link Frank, thanks for sharing it
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Nice link Frank, thanks for sharing it
+1
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I've never used Photoshop - I'm sure it would be great for me but learning curve seems steep. Back to OP, about Adobe, ore and more I feel "stuck" with Lightroom. I have so much time and energy invested and thousands of edits. In reality what I have learned would likely transfer to a new tool, but switching cost seems high in terms of time.
Rob.