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Title: Traffic sign?
Post by: John Geerts on December 06, 2015, 18:40:35
I noticed this sign in the streets of Tilburg, Netherlands,  but I have absolutely no idea what it says. Has any one a clue?   Any suggestion are welcome  ;)

Title: Re: Traffic sign?
Post by: Thomas G on December 06, 2015, 18:50:40
This is marking a place where people are supposed to gather together after leaving a building in an emergency situation.
It's part of a building's evacuation plans - further assistance like fire fighters or police will preferrable approach them there.
Title: Re: Traffic sign?
Post by: John Geerts on December 06, 2015, 18:51:43
Actually, just noticed  http://nikongear.net/revival/index.php/topic,1196.msg12240.html#msg12240 (http://nikongear.net/revival/index.php/topic,1196.msg12240.html#msg12240) the same spot were the Summer Lilac florished...

(https://nikongear.net/revival/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1196.0;attach=2209;image)

Title: Re: Traffic sign?
Post by: John Geerts on December 06, 2015, 18:52:56
Ah, thanks Thomas.  Is it an International sign then?
Title: Re: Traffic sign?
Post by: Thomas G on December 06, 2015, 19:00:03
It's in ISO 7010 so I would think that it is regarded internationally.
link to ISO 7010 abstract (http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_detail.htm?csnumber=54432)
It's there since 2011.
I've seen in seen it more regulary throughout Europe since some time - it may be related to national organizations implementing European rules over time.
Title: Re: Traffic sign?
Post by: John Geerts on December 08, 2015, 23:35:56
Thanks Thomas !   Very helpful.
Title: Re: Traffic sign?
Post by: Anirban Halder on December 09, 2015, 02:18:23
Ah, thanks Thomas.  Is it an International sign then?
This sign is well known in India as well, for same reason.
Title: Re: Traffic sign?
Post by: John Geerts on December 09, 2015, 08:37:53
Thank you for the addition, Anirban !  So it's a worldwide sign, never guessed that   ;)
Title: Re: Traffic sign?
Post by: pluton on December 10, 2015, 19:23:18
I suppose the isolated, severed head above the two full humans is what makes it an 'emergency'?
Title: Re: Traffic sign?
Post by: Frank Fremerey on December 10, 2015, 19:31:42
I noticed this sign in the streets of Tilburg, Netherlands,  but I have absolutely no idea what it says. Has any one a clue?   Any suggestion are welcome  ;)

"gathering point" or "meeting point" ISO standardized sign

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meeting_point
Title: Re: Traffic sign?
Post by: John Geerts on December 10, 2015, 19:59:54
From what I understand a gathering point in case of fire in a building or a block of buildings. The severed head must then make it a 'crowd' I presume.  A bit of useless sign in my view, in case of heavy fires people will escape in all directions....
Title: Re: Traffic sign?
Post by: Frank Fremerey on December 10, 2015, 20:38:15
John: It is not necessarily an emergency. I have seen this in places like trade fairs and the like. Just a meeting point
Title: Re: Traffic sign?
Post by: John Geerts on December 10, 2015, 21:25:46
Thanks Frank Didn't know that. Actually this sign (where the photo was taken) is placed in the middle of nowhere. The closest building is in 300 meters and inhibit some city hall social security offices. There is very little to meet there ;) 
Title: Re: Traffic sign?
Post by: Thomas G on December 10, 2015, 21:53:33
John: It is not necessarily an emergency. I have seen this in places like trade fairs and the like. Just a meeting point
This is the ambiguous aspect which which drives some discussion about this pictgram.

It's official use is clearly defined Evacuation assembly point (Sammelstelle) (https://www.iso.org/obp/ui#iso:grs:7010:2:E007)
I'd expect that these places are selected in sufficient distance to the facility to be fled.
Title: Re: Traffic sign?
Post by: Jakov Minić on December 10, 2015, 22:00:46
I completely agree with Thomas :)
It's about evacuating people at a safe pace to a safe place which is usually called a meeting point away from the building (where the calamity/emergency occurs).
A determined meeting point exists for the reasons of head count.