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Gear Talk => Lens Talk => Topic started by: DaveO on October 10, 2015, 22:31:33

Title: Tough decision
Post by: DaveO on October 10, 2015, 22:31:33
   I was thinking about getting a 70-300mm VR lens for my D 300s.  I just happened to see that I could get a refurbished Nikon Coolpix A for less money.  I already have the older Nikon 70-300mm ED non VR lens, so I really don't need it.  I don't need the Coolpix A either since I bought a Sony RX 100 I last year at this time.  The 28mm single fl lens may be a problem, but the APS-C sensor and extremely good lens would be a plus.
Title: Re: Tough decision
Post by: Andrea B. on October 10, 2015, 22:42:20
You have a 70-300 and an RX100. So you don't need another 70-300 or a Coolpix A. Get something else!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Tough decision
Post by: DaveO on October 10, 2015, 22:45:57
  I almost have to get something as it's my birthday!
Title: Re: Tough decision
Post by: Ian R on October 10, 2015, 22:53:44
I'm looking at the Coolpix A too - fabulous value. Why not sell the Sony and stick with the fixed 28? I agree about not doubling up, no need to have both. How about a D3300 and a small 20mm lens for it?
Title: Re: Tough decision
Post by: Marco Lanciani on October 10, 2015, 23:18:46
David, wait a few months and hope a D400 will come and... Happy Birthday!  ;)
Title: Re: Tough decision
Post by: John Geerts on October 10, 2015, 23:55:25
Or  a D810S  ;)   http://nikonrumors.com/2015/10/09/a-new-nikon-d810s-is-a-possibility.aspx/ (http://nikonrumors.com/2015/10/09/a-new-nikon-d810s-is-a-possibility.aspx/)
Title: Re: Tough decision
Post by: DaveO on October 11, 2015, 00:28:05
   I've been waiting for the D 400 for a few years now.  I bought a used D 300s to replace my D 80 and don't think that I would be satisfied with a crippled camera after using the D 300s.  I don't want to go up to an FX camera as a few of my lenses are DX only.
Title: Re: Tough decision
Post by: Marco Lanciani on October 11, 2015, 00:50:11
I don't think that either upgrading your 70-300 to VR or buying a Coolpix A is at all a good idea.

Maybe you might consider changing system and go for a Fuji XT1, or similar, and sell all you actual equipment: you can use lenses from every brand. Only the best!  8)
Or you might consider a Nikon 1 AW...
This if your money are burning in your hands.

I don't know your actual photographic needs but don't waste your money.

Why not invest your money in taking photos: travel a lot and enjoy photography!  ;)
Good luck with your decision!
Title: Re: Tough decision
Post by: pluton on October 11, 2015, 02:59:09
Make a gift to yourself of funds, to be used if Nikon makes the long-pined-for successor to the D300S, or something else if Nikon poops out.  Give it until February or so...
Title: Re: Tough decision
Post by: armando_m on October 11, 2015, 03:02:52
I had the 70-300 ED AF, replaced it with the 70-300 AFS Vr and I think it is much better, more contrast, better AF, and Vr can be useful, but you also have to remember to turn it off when it can be detrimental.

if you want to stay with DX but upgrade the D300s , have you looked at the D7200?
Title: Re: Tough decision
Post by: elsa hoffmann on October 11, 2015, 06:59:34
whatever you spend your money on - HAVE FUN and happy birthday
Title: Re: Tough decision
Post by: Frank Fremerey on October 11, 2015, 07:14:18
Maybe equipment is not the best option to advance your
photography. A cool workshop that might teach you how to
use your equipment in cool new ways might be the better
option. I feel I already have more than enough equipment.
Sometimes I am under the impression that I shoot more after
having sold equiment I do not use anymore. It feels like a burden
has been lifted from my chest.

I currently have a selling list.
Title: Re: Tough decision
Post by: DaveO on October 11, 2015, 12:28:05
   I didn't think about the workshops available.  I gave my son a 6 month subscription to one of them, but you can rent individual sessions on different topics on it also.  You just have to watch it within 48 hours.
Title: Re: Tough decision
Post by: Frank Fremerey on October 11, 2015, 14:19:06
   I didn't think about the workshops available.  I gave my son a 6 month subscription to one of them, but you can rent individual sessions on different topics on it also.  You just have to watch it within 48 hours.

I was thinking of live workshops with real people. Not online. In our area we have lots of these.
On Macro. On Tabletop. On lighting. On wedding. On Portraits. ...

some are really expensive like a few thousand Euros for a weekend. But you can get great tuition for a few
hundred bucks too.
Title: Re: Tough decision
Post by: PeterN on October 11, 2015, 15:50:15
If you want something with excellent IQ, is fun to use, has a retro look and has some neat features (high flash sync speed, leaf shutter, EVF+OVF) fixed 35mm lens + high quality converters to get 28mm and 50mm FL, go for the Fuji X100/X100S/X100T. I have the X100T and it's the camera I bring on city trips, bike rides, walks, etc. I thoroughly enjoy that camera.

A camera that has superb IQ (apparently almost up to par with medium format), there's the Sigma DP Merrill(s). Very affordable, lowsy processing software, a bit slow but if the light is good (read low ISO) the IQ is really, really awesome! Gary A. knows all about them!
Title: Re: Tough decision
Post by: Danulon on October 12, 2015, 21:21:14
A comparison: I had a D700 and wanted to upgrade.


I seriously pondered whether to go for the D810. But I didn't need 36MP and some unique (at least for FX standards) features did intrigue me.


It was a very quick decision once I laid my hands on a D750.


My recommendation therefore: Have a closer look at a D7100/ D7200. If possible make some shots. Then decide whether a D7x00 would be really a downgrade.


At least regarding FX several people in this forum switched from D700 to D750. Nobody complained. The sensor is marvellous. The build quality durable enough for most people. And the user interface absolutely ok! Some functions actually are easier to reach with the D750. Most of these features also apply for the D7x00 series.
Title: Re: Tough decision
Post by: Frank Fremerey on October 12, 2015, 21:45:47
I once tested the d300s against the d7000. Both side by side and the D3 as my main body.

The D300s was outdated back then.

With the D7100 there came a new AF system. This was the D7000 weak point.

I do not see where the D7200 is better than the 7100.

The 7100 used is sure a bargain.
Title: Re: Tough decision
Post by: Eb on October 13, 2015, 05:43:45
I do not see where the D7200 is better than the 7100.

The 7100 used is sure a bargain.
Frank, if you need a buffer that is at least as big as the D300, then the D7100 does not suffice.  Then the D7200 is much, much the better camera!  Aside that, there are a number of small improvements thrown in as a bonus.
Title: Re: Tough decision
Post by: Peter Connan on October 13, 2015, 06:42:30
If you are interested in that sort of thing, then the D7200 offers substantial improvements over the D7100 in the already-mentioned area of the buffer, but also faster processor (which should improve AF performance significantly especially when using multiple focus points, and also interval photography, the built-in timelapse function and video recording.
Title: Re: Tough decision
Post by: Frank Fremerey on October 13, 2015, 09:41:35
@Eb: The D300s was so slow that I newer felt the buffer as a limiting factor. I shoot 14 Bit NEFs. With JPEG only the D300s was much faster that the D7000. Very interesting information concerning the D7200. Thank you. I hated the D7000, because it did perform very badly with fast primes, the only lens type I use. I replaced it with the D600, which is the better camera in any respect, although the AF-system leaves a lot to wish for.

I still hope for a 24MP D5 that will fix all issues of the current 24MP-lineup (D3X/D600/D610/D750) in one decent body.