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Gear Talk => Lens Talk => Topic started by: ARTUROARTISTA on August 27, 2025, 11:54:14

Title: Lens from a 19th-century magic lantern.
Post by: ARTUROARTISTA on August 27, 2025, 11:54:14
Lens from a 19th-century magic lantern.
Can it be adapted to a modern camera?
Title: Re: Lens from a 19th-century magic lantern.
Post by: Birna Rørslett on August 27, 2025, 14:31:43
Probably. Whether it is going to be useful or practical, depends among other considerations on what focal length it has. If long, the likely alternative, you might need added extension to make the lens focus to anything closer than infinity.

You don't need to know the exact focal length, merely what the distance will be from the rear end of the lens to the sensor/film plane. Easily observed by projecting an image of the sun or other bright objects onto a sheet of paper and moving the lens back and forth to focus the test target seen on the paper sheet. Be aware that the sun might set fire to the paper when you nail the infinity focus :)
Title: Re: Lens from a 19th-century magic lantern.
Post by: ARTUROARTISTA on August 27, 2025, 22:03:10
Thanks, Birna. I see what I can do with your instructions. I think that's a huge distance, 17 cm.
Title: Re: Lens from a 19th-century magic lantern.
Post by: Birna Rørslett on August 27, 2025, 22:45:20
Hmm. Makes using it for ordinary photography a bit complicated, unless you have a long bellows device :)
Title: Re: Lens from a 19th-century magic lantern.
Post by: ARTUROARTISTA on August 27, 2025, 23:01:55
I've reached 14 cm. I think I'll have to buy a bellows like you say Birna.
Title: Re: Lens from a 19th-century magic lantern.
Post by: Hugh_3170 on August 28, 2025, 15:02:17
Maybe a length of blackened plastic water pipe of a suitable length and diameter - certainly inexpensive for proof of concept purposes.
Title: Re: Lens from a 19th-century magic lantern.
Post by: ARTUROARTISTA on August 28, 2025, 17:04:35
Maybe a length of blackened plastic water pipe of a suitable length and diameter - certainly inexpensive for proof of concept purposes.
That's a good idea. Thanks, Hugh.
Title: Re: Lens from a 19th-century magic lantern.
Post by: Dr Klaus Schmitt on September 01, 2025, 12:17:38
Well those old lenses (I tested a lot of them also projectio lenses) usually have quite some long focal length so quite some extension is needed even to reach infinity. I used some longer M42-helicod plus a longish tube with black flocking inside to miniize reflection - worked rather well, but clumsy to use...
Title: Re: Lens from a 19th-century magic lantern.
Post by: ARTUROARTISTA on September 01, 2025, 14:34:38
Well those old lenses (I tested a lot of them also projectio lenses) usually have quite some long focal length so quite some extension is needed even to reach infinity. I used some longer M42-helicod plus a longish tube with black flocking inside to miniize reflection - worked rather well, but clumsy to use...
I have a small collection of antique magic lanterns and thought I'd use some of your lenses. Thanks for the information, Dr. Klaus.
Best regards
Title: Re: Lens from a 19th-century magic lantern.
Post by: ARTUROARTISTA on September 06, 2025, 14:40:04
Here I have the invention. It works in its own way.
Title: Re: Lens from a 19th-century magic lantern.
Post by: ARTUROARTISTA on September 06, 2025, 14:47:36
Examples of the invention.
Title: Re: Lens from a 19th-century magic lantern.
Post by: ARTUROARTISTA on September 06, 2025, 14:54:21
2
Title: Re: Lens from a 19th-century magic lantern.
Post by: ARTUROARTISTA on September 06, 2025, 14:57:02
3, D200
Title: Re: Lens from a 19th-century magic lantern.
Post by: Hugh_3170 on September 06, 2025, 15:08:42
You have made it - well done.

Are you going to refine the plastic adapter into metal and develop it for greater ease of focussing?
Title: Re: Lens from a 19th-century magic lantern.
Post by: ARTUROARTISTA on September 06, 2025, 15:32:31
You have made it - well done.

Are you going to refine the plastic adapter into metal and develop it for greater ease of focussing?
Thanks, Hugh, your idea was crucial. I can't yet assess the ingenuity; when I have more tests, I'll consider the lens's usefulness.
Title: Re: Lens from a 19th-century magic lantern.
Post by: ARTUROARTISTA on September 06, 2025, 22:42:04
It is a macro lens, transformed, super bright and difficult to handle, and it works the same in its normal position as when turned upside down, inverted.
Title: Re: Lens from a 19th-century magic lantern.
Post by: Thomas Stellwag on September 07, 2025, 11:15:34
now you´re somewhere between painting and taking photographs
the 2nd picture is very good
Title: Re: Lens from a 19th-century magic lantern.
Post by: ARTUROARTISTA on September 07, 2025, 14:11:45
Thanks, Thomas. Painting shows me how to take photos, and taking photos tells me how to paint.