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Gear Talk => Lens Talk => Topic started by: Akira on January 17, 2025, 14:09:21

Title: Rare Fisheye Nikkor for Disney
Post by: Akira on January 17, 2025, 14:09:21
A never-heard-of fisheye Nikkor...

https://petapixel.com/2025/01/16/one-of-a-kind-nikon-14-3mm-f-4-fisheye-can-be-yours-for-250000/
Title: Re: Rare Fisheye Nikkor for Disney
Post by: bobfriedman on January 17, 2025, 14:26:01
very interesting.... nice find Akira!..  I am no expert, but this is a first for me as well and according to the article the should be no surprise since only one was made.
Title: Re: Rare Fisheye Nikkor for Disney
Post by: Birna Rørslett on January 17, 2025, 17:59:02
Very interesting design, and the price signals this glass monster should never be used to do real photography for the fear of scratching the lens :)

The calculation to show this is an "f/2" lens was just stupid, though.
Title: Re: Rare Fisheye Nikkor for Disney
Post by: MEPER on January 17, 2025, 21:50:12
Maybe free shipping can be negotiated?
Title: Re: Rare Fisheye Nikkor for Disney
Post by: Akira on January 18, 2025, 01:19:32
very interesting.... nice find Akira!..  I am no expert, but this is a first for me as well and according to the article the should be no surprise since only one was made.

Glad you enjoyed the article, Bob!


Very interesting design, and the price signals this glass monster should never be used to do real photography for the fear of scratching the lens :)

The calculation to show this is an "f/2" lens was just stupid, though.

I think they took the x0.51 factor into calculation of the focal length as well.


Maybe free shipping can be negotiated?

I thought the same way.   ;D
Title: Re: Rare Fisheye Nikkor for Disney
Post by: pluton on January 18, 2025, 02:44:53

The calculation to show this is an "f/2" lens was just stupid, though.
Petapixel later issued a "correction" explaining that the Leica Store Netherlands had written the stupid copy.
Title: Re: Rare Fisheye Nikkor for Disney
Post by: F2F3F6 on January 18, 2025, 14:59:18
Rare Nikon glass becomes even rarer when transformed for cine or astro use...2,0/300 IF-ED or 2,8/6 Fisheye are really unique ! Thanks Akira for this article  ;)
Title: Re: Rare Fisheye Nikkor for Disney
Post by: bobfriedman on January 18, 2025, 17:25:13
The calculation to show this is an "f/2" lens was just stupid, though.

my thought is they missed the square root.  so for a image diagonal ratio of 0.51, (0.51)^1/2=0.7141, 0.7141x4=2.8566

I would like to know how to properly scale aperture as I have been using the Fuji GFX, so if I have this wrong let me know.
Title: Re: Rare Fisheye Nikkor for Disney
Post by: Akira on January 18, 2025, 18:00:50
Rare Nikon glass becomes even rarer when transformed for cine or astro use...2,0/300 IF-ED or 2,8/6 Fisheye are really unique ! Thanks Akira for this article  ;)

Glad you enjoy it!
Title: Re: Rare Fisheye Nikkor for Disney
Post by: Birna Rørslett on January 18, 2025, 23:02:16
There is no need to "scale" aperture. It stays put whatever the format. The same holds for image magnification. And image circle. And the angle of view of the design. And resolution.

What does change with the format is how much of what the lens "sees" that can be recorded onto film/digital sensor.
Title: Re: Rare Fisheye Nikkor for Disney
Post by: bobfriedman on January 19, 2025, 17:49:31
There is no need to "scale" aperture. It stays put whatever the format. The same holds for image magnification. And image circle. And the angle of view of the design. And resolution.

What does change with the format is how much of what the lens "sees" that can be recorded onto film/digital sensor.

I think I might have been wrong on the square root.. no matter... back to your response.

what are your thoughts using f/64 on an 8x10 view relative to 35mm format.
Title: Re: Rare Fisheye Nikkor for Disney
Post by: Birna Rørslett on January 19, 2025, 18:02:07
Using f/64 on the 8x10" format is fairly OK, however would be a disaster on the 24x36mm frame.  Secondary magnification from the large format to the final print is modest, compared to what the smaller format would require. Hence the difference.
Title: Re: Rare Fisheye Nikkor for Disney
Post by: bobfriedman on January 20, 2025, 00:09:10
Using f/64 on the 8x10" format is fairly OK, however would be a disaster on the 24x36mm frame.  Secondary magnification from the large format to the final print is modest, compared to what the smaller format would require. Hence the difference.

using a scale factor one would arrive at the 35mm equivalent of f/8.  is using scale factors in this way misleading?
Title: Re: Rare Fisheye Nikkor for Disney
Post by: Birna Rørslett on January 20, 2025, 07:35:43
The short answer: yes.
Title: Re: Rare Fisheye Nikkor for Disney
Post by: Erik Lund on March 13, 2025, 12:21:29
A sister Projector lens for your Camera lens   :o
 
17.3mm f/4 for 70mm Cine Projector I had the opptotunity to play a little with,,,
 
https://nikongear.net/revival/index.php?topic=7051.msg137057#msg137057

Note the serial numbers 112001 and 113001  8)
Title: Re: Rare Fisheye Nikkor for Disney
Post by: Akira on March 13, 2025, 12:43:39
A sister Projector lens for your Camera lens   :o
 
17.3mm f/4 for 70mm Cine Projector I had the opptotunity to play a little with,,,
 
https://nikongear.net/revival/index.php?topic=7051.msg137057#msg137057

Note the serial numbers 112001 and 113001  8)

Thank you, Erik, for the reminder!  Is the difference of the focal lengths for different projection methods?