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Gear Talk => Processing & Publication => Topic started by: richardHaw on July 25, 2024, 04:54:08

Title: What photo editor with these features
Post by: richardHaw on July 25, 2024, 04:54:08
I'm looking for a replacement for Lightroom, what I need to see are:

Fuck Adobe :o :o :o
Title: Re: What photo editor with these features
Post by: Ian Watson on July 25, 2024, 12:35:42
Both Capture One and DXO Photo Lab meet those requirements.

What has Adobe done to upset you?
Title: Re: What photo editor with these features
Post by: Bent Hjarbo on July 25, 2024, 14:20:29
I am not sure that there is a replacement for many of the functions that are in Lightroom.
Lighttable may be the closest app.
Title: Re: What photo editor with these features
Post by: richardHaw on July 26, 2024, 02:00:52
Thank you everyone, I'm looking at ON1 :o :o :o

it's the only one that can batch watermarks ::)
It can also do virtual copies, but I will have to test it myself first.

As for Adobe, their head is too big, their stocks went down because of what they did. Now they are dialing back after pissing off a lot of creatives. They have gone too far.

Basically they have the new terms of service that allows them access to your creation without consent so they can use for their AI model.
Title: Re: What photo editor with these features
Post by: Ian Watson on July 26, 2024, 12:31:11
Actually, no. Someone read the legalese of the latest terms of service (written by lawyers for lawyers) and drew conclusions of entirely the wrong order. The Internet Amplification Effect took over from there. Adobe learned a painful lesson in public relations, but they did learn it.

Here is their explanation of the terms of service in plain language. It is nicely done.

https://www.adobe.com/legal/terms.html

They are not helping themselves to your images. They need your permission to do certain things that their software is designed to do for you. If it is on their servers then they have legal obligations to check for prohibited material. Only images submitted to Adobe Stock will be used for training their AI engine, as clearly stated when you sign up for that service.

So you can relax and keep using Lightroom :)


Title: Re: What photo editor with these features
Post by: Anthony on July 26, 2024, 13:02:51
Actually, no. Someone read the legalese of the latest terms of service (written by lawyers for lawyers) and drew conclusions of entirely the wrong order. The Internet Amplification Effect took over from there. Adobe learned a painful lesson in public relations, but they did learn it.

Here is their explanation of the terms of service in plain language. It is nicely done.

https://www.adobe.com/legal/terms.html

They are not helping themselves to your images. They need your permission to do certain things that their software is designed to do for you. If it is on their servers then they have legal obligations to check for prohibited material. Only images submitted to Adobe Stock will be used for training their AI engine, as clearly stated when you sign up for that service.

So you can relax and keep using Lightroom :)

Well said.
Title: Re: What photo editor with these features
Post by: Dogman on July 26, 2024, 15:16:26
Nothing replaces Lightroom.

I've tried several options but none of them are as intuitive for me as a photographer.  It's comfortable and familiar.  I'm old and pretty simple-minded and I don't wanna learn new languages and skill sets at this point in my life.  I just suck it up, send my monthly fee to Adobe and continue with LR.
Title: Re: What photo editor with these features
Post by: pluton on July 26, 2024, 19:31:44
My take:  No known raw>process>output>PRINT (important to me) software has everything that Lightroom has in one place.  Also, all the ones I've looked at have an inferior UI (my personal taste in UI's, of course).  I'm not close to being wealthy or well-to-do, but US$118 per year is cheaper than C1! 
Of course, if you're bored with it and are looking for a new challenge, like trying to figure out what 90 different unique and arbitrarily-designed icons mean, go get C1, DXO, On 1, Luminar, etc.
Title: Re: What photo editor with these features
Post by: richardHaw on July 27, 2024, 06:09:00
Like any love affair, this has to stop at some point. ::)

I'm going to install ON1 and see what's it's all about :o :o :o
Title: Re: What photo editor with these features
Post by: John Geerts on July 27, 2024, 07:08:54
Like any love affair, this has to stop at some point. ::)
It's not love affair, but a working tool.  I agree with Keith here.