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Gear Talk => Lens Talk => Topic started by: Snoogly on August 09, 2023, 05:58:23

Title: Bubble bokeh
Post by: Snoogly on August 09, 2023, 05:58:23
I’m a sucker for the bubbles, and this seems more manageable than my 500mm reflex nikkor.

Cheap as chips (though in the UK chips are going off the menu due to the price of spuds, oil, and the electricity needed for cooking). The UK needs a new ‘cheap as’ reference. Maybe, ‘the truth’ ? :-(

https://phillipreeve.net/blog/review-ttartisan-100mm-f-2-8-a-modern-and-affordable-trioplan/
Title: Re: Bubble bokeh
Post by: Akira on August 09, 2023, 06:30:28
The TT Artisan version has just hit the shelf.  You can buy one from Shoten-Kobo, but eBay offers one more cheaply (and with the free shipment!):

https://www.ebay.com/itm/195923730823?hash=item2d9df6e187:g:x7kAAOSwHMVk0MVP&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA4CUcWoOKzgBaSe1yMf8ahWIWACT6S%2BUbv%2BXUnKi%2FNE8q85BplJ0Daa8%2BozefzkkI1FtOGRLPegV4vlRYPuMoFT5r1Qlsd2%2FCIVnz9E6l6L8OPk9QW5702XbSTHvfBV1JK65RDn2jEemcVu9JCoEuB8b1zQt%2F3Z41QRg0mg3tJn2sbTj9iT2wVoK8qmAsZt8ZnZblw1hFcqFopJ3rBLRq6JNfKofxo%2FO9WiEZHh8eNk99xiCWqHh8Gk0z0ohaQmTAZu5awAgKWwsbNmDqRvrLcJMGa20%2Fm1MGgSENfJWFi78V%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR9bewIi7Yg
Title: Re: Bubble bokeh
Post by: Snoogly on August 09, 2023, 07:18:35
I already ordered one :-)
Title: Re: Bubble bokeh
Post by: Akira on August 09, 2023, 07:22:26
I already ordered one :-)

Great.  Please post the results!
Title: Re: Bubble bokeh
Post by: Hans_S on August 09, 2023, 09:00:41
Those results look a lot "cleaner" than my old Fujinon 55mm f2.8's, the 13 blade iris must help.
Title: Re: Bubble bokeh
Post by: ColinM on August 09, 2023, 14:49:36
Some interesting results.
In a way, I like the ones where highlights lead to pronounced bokeh the best...
...but the number of times I'd want this effect are limited
Could be a useful specialist tool for someone doing a lot of portraits.

What's less clear is the appeal when there are no highlights in the scene.
I only viewed the images on my 12" tablet, so may be missing some subtleties.
But the results seemed ...... seemed.....
Title: Re: Bubble bokeh
Post by: Hans_S on August 10, 2023, 01:47:08
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...but the number of times I'd want this effect are limited
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I would agree, an effect to be used when the xmas lights are out ;D. I picked up a very cheap pair of the Fujinons to see what the fuss was about. As expected, having to shoot them wide open to get the bubbles is quite a limitation...I wonder if they can be converted to fixed round apertures :o
Title: Re: Bubble bokeh
Post by: Snoogly on August 22, 2023, 06:35:36
Mine is still some time away from being shipped (too much demands?!), but this online review looks promising.

https://youtu.be/UVfy-F1ze9c
Title: Re: Bubble bokeh
Post by: ChengZhou Hong on August 28, 2023, 19:27:09
A personal friend of mine had suggested to me that some of these Chinese lenses are based on older German optical designs, the patents for which would have expired in recent history. The name "Trioplan" is quite suggestive here. I wonder whether this completely true, or some modifications were made to the original design for better performance?

edit: this lens is obviously a triplet design.. Also I had forgotten that the original Meyer-Optik Goerlitz Trioplan 100mm f/2.8 has some fanbase of its own. This one seems to be a "faithful" replica.
Title: Re: Bubble bokeh
Post by: Toby on September 01, 2023, 01:27:35
I would agree, an effect to be used when the xmas lights are out ;D. I picked up a very cheap pair of the Fujinons to see what the fuss was about. As expected, having to shoot them wide open to get the bubbles is quite a limitation...I wonder if they can be converted to fixed round apertures :o

Even if this were possible, one stop or two down and the bubbles stop being bright edged bubbles and just become discs and rather uninteresting. I have other Cooke triplets with round apertures and I find them pretty uninteresting bokeh-wise if not fully open.