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Images => Nature, Flora, Fauna & Landscapes => Topic started by: Akira on August 11, 2015, 06:52:54

Title: Nearly 180 degree pano
Post by: Akira on August 11, 2015, 06:52:54
Lots of small glitches, but decided to share here.  D7000, 35/1.8 ED, shot hand-held in the portrait orientation.  This time I left the AF on, following the tutorial here:

https://luminous-landscape.com/having-fun-with-panoramas/

However, the two obvious vertical seams on the right-hand side seems to have been caused by the slight shift of the entrance pupil.  This was the first time I did a pano with AF on, and this was the first time I experience this type of glitch.  The exposure was, as always, fixed (this time to f5.6, 1/800, ISO100).
Title: Re: Nearly 180 degree pano
Post by: ColinM on August 11, 2015, 07:54:18
I'm guessing the clouds were meant to be the stars of this, rather than the "land"

Is this why you chose a 35mm lens for this?
Title: Re: Nearly 180 degree pano
Post by: Akira on August 11, 2015, 08:26:39
Colin, thanks for dropping in and commenting.

The stars or the laned, I was intrigued by the shapes of the clouds and the way they are spread out.  :)

I used 35mm (on DX) in order to keep the stitching error caused by the perspective distortion at bay, which was not very successful in this case, though.
Title: Re: Nearly 180 degree pano
Post by: Erik Lund on August 11, 2015, 08:45:02
It looks super strange with the cropped rooftops of the houses, like there is nothing underneath them, also the orange lower left makes the whole scene a bit surreal...
Title: Re: Nearly 180 degree pano
Post by: elsa hoffmann on August 11, 2015, 09:00:30
I am with Erik here.
Title: Re: Nearly 180 degree pano
Post by: Akira on August 11, 2015, 09:30:41
Erik and Elsa, thanks for commenting.

I wanted to capture the clouds as much as possible, but would regret that there was not enough foreground left after the crop.  I had to trim the top and the bottom porions of the original stitch due to the uneveness of hand-held shooting method, even though the camera was hold in a portrait orientation.  Maybe I should have used a tripod or done a two-row stitch.
Title: Re: Nearly 180 degree pano
Post by: Jakov Minić on August 11, 2015, 09:37:44
Akira why don't you try shooting two rows in portrait mode.
I love those clouds!
Title: Re: Nearly 180 degree pano
Post by: Akira on August 11, 2015, 09:39:54
Jakov, I WILL try next time.  These clouds have already gone.    :'(
Title: Re: Nearly 180 degree pano
Post by: Jakov Minić on August 11, 2015, 09:41:38
The clouds WILL come back and you WILL be ready for them :)
Title: Re: Nearly 180 degree pano
Post by: Akira on August 11, 2015, 11:54:08
You're right, Jakov!   8)

And next time I will turn AF off.
Title: Re: Nearly 180 degree pano
Post by: armando_m on August 11, 2015, 16:18:19
I thought stitching errors are also caused by the images not overlapping enough ?

Title: Re: Nearly 180 degree pano
Post by: elsa hoffmann on August 11, 2015, 18:50:12
I have never done two rows of images - so forgive the blondness
I assume you just do 2 rows and the software pics up it's 2 rows??

good tip that since I am also short most of the time
Title: Re: Nearly 180 degree pano
Post by: Akira on August 11, 2015, 19:49:58
I thought stitching errors are also caused by the images not overlapping enough ?

Armando, when I just started to do pano, I failed to overlap the images enough, but the error caused by that never looked like this (I disabled the AF).  Also, the stitches have never been straight.
Title: Re: Nearly 180 degree pano
Post by: Akira on August 11, 2015, 19:54:32
I have never done two rows of images - so forgive the blondness
I assume you just do 2 rows and the software pics up it's 2 rows??

good tip that since I am also short most of the time

Elsa, I use Photomerge in CC2015, and it does multi-row stitches.  I've experimented with 2x8 and 3x3 stitches with Photomerge which analyzes the parts and detects rows and columns.
Title: Re: Nearly 180 degree pano
Post by: Jakov Minić on August 11, 2015, 22:57:23
PTGui is the best stitching software out there as far as I know.

Yes, it does help when you have such good friends :)
Title: Re: Nearly 180 degree pano
Post by: Akira on August 11, 2015, 23:52:58
PTGui is the best stitching software out there as far as I know.

Yes, to my understanding, it is the best pano software.  Marco (Lanciani), Alan and (maybe) Frank use it to do their impressive stitches.
Title: Re: Nearly 180 degree pano
Post by: pluton on August 12, 2015, 10:00:04
I assume you just do 2 rows and the software pics up it's 2 rows??

My Ps CS6 once did a handheld pano that was five rows tall and totaled 79 shots(as I recall).  It assembled them fine, but it wasn't an interesting shot
Title: Re: Nearly 180 degree pano
Post by: ColinM on August 13, 2015, 13:57:10
I have never done two rows of images - so forgive the blondness
I assume you just do 2 rows and the software pics up it's 2 rows??

So I think you've seen enough replies to know there's (almost) no limit.
I think there are a few well publicised Giga-pixel images on the web made from large numbers of stitched source images.
For me I have sometimes used it when I was getting wistful about not having a 50Mp camers, as a way of letting my D300 maybe capture a little more.

If you remember the old NG site, Fred/Alan used this approach quite a lot for several of his forest & landscape images.

For those of you who are more experienced in doing this, I would be interested to know the pros & cons of the different approaches.

Multi-image shots should give us the equivalent of more pixels
Title: Re: Nearly 180 degree pano
Post by: Akira on August 13, 2015, 17:25:55
Colin, the original tiff of my initial pano has about 100MP.  Sometimes I stitch only a couple of frames vertically or horizontally in order to make a wideangle image using my 35/1.8 ED on D7000, which is not necessarily for large prints but is very handy.  The current Photomerge does the hand-held panos very well in many cases, alsthough it doesn't offer such a full control as on PTGui.

I have tried 2 x 12 stitch using Photomerge, but it should be capable of handling more images.

The drawback of pano using Photomerge would be:
1. The stitch error is difficult to correct.
2. You cannot really do panos for moving object or landscapes in windy conditions.
Title: Re: Nearly 180 degree pano
Post by: Erik Lund on August 14, 2015, 08:56:15
I have never done two rows of images - so forgive the blondness
I assume you just do 2 rows and the software pics up it's 2 rows??

So I think you've seen enough replies to know there's (almost) no limit.
I think there are a few well publicised Giga-pixel images on the web made from large numbers of stitched source images.
For me I have sometimes used it when I was getting wistful about not having a 50Mp camers, as a way of letting my D300 maybe capture a little more.

If you remember the old NG site, Fred/Alan used this approach quite a lot for several of his forest & landscape images.

For those of you who are more experienced in doing this, I would be interested to know the pros & cons of the different approaches.

Multi-image shots should give us the equivalent of more pixels
  • Is this only of use up to (say) 10-15 source files?
  • Are we only going to see the benefit when doing really large prints
    or online images that people can zoom in/out of ?
  • Are there any drawbacks?

It's important to keep the enterence pupil of the lens in the same spot to avoid parllax problems. A gimball head is really usefull for this.
I prefer to shoot in portrait orientation,,, Just feels right somehow...

I see no drawbacks except for shooting non static scenes, cars or people mooving...