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Re: Nikon Z6/7 mirrorless system
« Reply #60 on: November 16, 2018, 20:29:59 »
Excellent! I just ordered a 35 f/1.8 DX, I'm anxious to see how it renders on my D7200.

Oooops, I ordered a G lens. not an S, my error.
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Re: Nikon Z6/7 mirrorless system
« Reply #61 on: November 16, 2018, 20:39:06 »
Still should  be an excellent performer.

Compatibility F vs Z systems is unidirectional. F lenses can be used on Z via the FTZ or similar adapters, whilst Z lenses have far too short register distance to be on the F range. Besides, the electronics employed are widely different. Basically Z lenses are 'E' type i.e. aperture is operated electronically.

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Re: Nikon Z6/7 mirrorless system
« Reply #62 on: November 16, 2018, 21:17:03 »
Still should  be an excellent performer.

Compatibility F vs Z systems is unidirectional. F lenses can be used on Z via the FTZ or similar adapters, whilst Z lenses have far too short register distance to be on the F range. Besides, the electronics employed are widely different. Basically Z lenses are 'E' type i.e. aperture is operated electronically.

I had been looking into the 35 G prior to ordering for my D7200 and D200, so I had 35mm on the brain! When I saw your posts where you were using a 35mm, I glossed over the fact that you were talking about an S model, and responded, which was not exactly on topic WRT to your posts.  :-[
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Re: Nikon Z6/7 mirrorless system
« Reply #63 on: November 16, 2018, 22:24:33 »
Another tidbit: the Z7 shutter is limited in EFCS (Electronic Front Curtain Shutter) mode, shortest speed is 1/2000s. This in contrast to the D850 which goes all the way to 1/8000s. Seems a little unpractical, but bokeh is known to suffer in EFCS mode at shutter speeds shorter that 1/1000 - 1/2000s. So it can be seen as a kind of protection, intentionally implemented or not.

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Re: Nikon Z6/7 mirrorless system
« Reply #64 on: November 16, 2018, 22:28:29 »
This "limitation" brings one back to the glorious time of the Nikon F2

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Re: Nikon Z6/7 mirrorless system
« Reply #65 on: November 16, 2018, 22:56:38 »

Yes, in those times 1/2000s was cutting edge.
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Re: Nikon Z6/7 mirrorless system
« Reply #66 on: November 16, 2018, 23:36:43 »
I enjoy my faint memories of FM2 days on my current D750.
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Re: Nikon Z6/7 mirrorless system
« Reply #67 on: November 17, 2018, 14:23:10 »
My daughter is playing her harp. AFS 105/1.4 0+ FTZ + Z7, 3200 ISO, f/1.4. jpgs straight off the camera as before, everything on auto. She is highly focused on the challenge at hand.

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Re: Nikon Z6/7 mirrorless system
« Reply #68 on: November 18, 2018, 12:22:54 »
The in-camera VR of the Z models extends the acceptable range of slow shutter speeds to pretty amazing figures with the hand-held camera. With the 24-70/4S I got consistently  sharp images to 1/6 sec and occasionally even to 1/4 or 1/3 sec.

This is from a test sequence of my book shelf (my flimsy excuse for the test target: early Sunday morning, a wet blanket of fog in combination with near-zero temperature makes the outside unattractive, and my coffee tastes better here in my living room). Hand-held Z7, 24-70/4S, f/4.5, 1/6 sec, 1000ISO. As before, jpgs straight off the camera. No sharpening.

Entire frame and 100% crop.

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Re: Nikon Z6/7 mirrorless system
« Reply #69 on: November 18, 2018, 12:40:54 »
Amazing sharpness, you have a steady hand ;)
This would not have been possible without help from the VR

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Re: Nikon Z6/7 mirrorless system
« Reply #70 on: November 18, 2018, 12:50:09 »
Aaah... Arrakis and the Spice...  ;D (giving credit to the sharpness )!
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Re: Nikon Z6/7 mirrorless system
« Reply #71 on: November 18, 2018, 12:52:00 »
Amazing sharpness, you have a steady hand ;)
This would not have been possible without help from the VR
My hands are notoriously unsteady -- long term use of asthma medication ensures that.

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Re: Nikon Z6/7 mirrorless system
« Reply #72 on: November 18, 2018, 13:47:22 »
Now, putting my AFS 200/2 VR through its paces in the same manner as the 24-70/4S. The wet foggy blanket is about to lift, thus shutter speeds were "fast" around 1/10 sec.

Entire frame and 100% crop. Hand-held Z7, AFS 200/2 VR, f/4.5, 1/10 sec, 1000 ISO. Jpgs straight off camera, no additional anything except for a change to sRGB and downsizing (entire frame). Due to the details of the 100% crop I had to reduce jpg quality from the usual 12 to level 10, so keep that factoid in mind when looking at the outcome.

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Re: Nikon Z6/7 mirrorless system
« Reply #73 on: November 18, 2018, 13:56:44 »
The VR surely works as advertised :)

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Re: Nikon Z6/7 mirrorless system
« Reply #74 on: November 18, 2018, 14:01:12 »
The VR surely works as advertised :)

I reached the similar conclusion myself.