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Canon EOS R full frame mirrorless camera
« on: September 03, 2018, 12:33:32 »
It seems that Canon answer to the Nikon Z6 / Z7 will be announced soon.

EOS R specs:
https://www.canonrumors.com/canon-eos-r-full-specifications/

Some interesting RF lenses like the rather heavy 50/1.2 (950gr) and 28-70/2 (1430gr):
https://www.canonrumors.com/canon-rf-lens-specifications/

Awesome news as competition is always good to speed up R&D and keep prices competitive.

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Re: Canon EOS R full frame mirrorless camera
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2018, 12:47:48 »
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Re: Canon EOS R full frame mirrorless camera
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2018, 12:52:48 »
These major players are following the same trend: offering not smaller, but bigger, lenses. More glass, more sophisticated optical designs.

Which is likely a good thing, but forget the mirrorless 'small is beautiful' hype.

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Re: Canon EOS R full frame mirrorless camera
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2018, 13:23:16 »
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But Of course.

I was once told that Canon lenses are so good the entire image is in focus, no matter what...    ::)
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Re: Canon EOS R full frame mirrorless camera
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2018, 13:44:02 »
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Re: Canon EOS R full frame mirrorless camera
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2018, 13:56:28 »
Which is likely a good thing, but forget the mirrorless 'small is beautiful' hype.
After more than a decade of IRMA testing the majority of the consumers seem to value stunning lab scores from flat paper targets over actual real life use.

With the current lens limitations there seems to be the small but expensive Leica route or the go big and (somewhat) affordable route, modern manual focus lenses like the Voigtlander and Zeiss FE lenses seem to be the perfect middle ground between size and IQ.

The Voigtlander range for the Sony E which will hopefully be ported to the Nikon Z and Canon RF mounts offer a very nice range of compact and capable lenses:
https://www.voigtlaender.de/lenses/e-mount/?lang=en

With a small camera we have at least the choice to go small with manual focus lenses or size up the system when things like AF, zoom, tele, etc are needed :)

In my case I'll stick with the Voigtlander E 15/4.5 (first) and F 50/1.2 (third) when I want to keep things small and take along the FE 35/1.4 (second) or the tele lenses when their size is not an impediment.
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Re: Canon EOS R full frame mirrorless camera
« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2018, 14:05:48 »
Also Panasonic seems to be joining to the full-frame group!

https://www.43rumors.com/ft5-panasonic-will-announce-its-first-full-frame-system-camera-on-september-25/
Cool, curious whether they will use an existing mount like they did with m4/3 or that they will introduce yet another mount.

Currently we already have:
- Canon RF
- Leica SL
- Nikon Z
- Sony E

Currently they share the m4/3 mount with Olympus but they also have ties to Leica so it could go either way  :)
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Re: Canon EOS R full frame mirrorless camera
« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2018, 14:30:10 »
Cool, curious whether they will use an existing mount like they did with m4/3 or that they will introduce yet another mount.

Currently we already have:
- Canon RF
- Leica SL
- Nikon Z
- Sony E

Currently they share the m4/3 mount with Olympus but they also have ties to Leica so it could go either way  :)

I guess m4/3 is too small to accommodate a full-size sensor.  There are Super 35 cine cameras with m4/3 mounts, though.
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Re: Canon EOS R full frame mirrorless camera
« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2018, 14:31:30 »
If Panasonic also decides to go FX, they'll leave Olympus in a blind alley. It's unlikely if not downright impossible for Panasonic to keep the m4/3 mount for a new FX line of cameras.

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Re: Canon EOS R full frame mirrorless camera
« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2018, 14:38:32 »
If Panasonic also decides to go FX, they'll leave Olympus in a blind alley.

I think so.

Interestingly, it Panasonic would abandon m4/3 format (at least for the sensor), my thesis "the format promoted by Olympus (although not alone) won't last long" is further supported.  Remember MO disc, iDshot, Smart Media, xD-Picture card...
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Re: Canon EOS R full frame mirrorless camera
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Re: Canon EOS R full frame mirrorless camera
« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2018, 15:09:45 »
Yes, the RF name is present, but *no* specifications other than those of the camera.

I noticed Canon offers native GPS support. At last.

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Re: Canon EOS R full frame mirrorless camera
« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2018, 16:11:03 »
Oh my, the Canon R seems to have one SD cardslot, curious how they manage that marketing wise after the shitstorm that hit Nikon for the one XQD slot  ;D ;D
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Re: Canon EOS R full frame mirrorless camera
« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2018, 16:56:10 »
Oh my, the Canon R seems to have one SD cardslot, curious how they manage that marketing wise after the shitstorm that hit Nikon for the one XQD slot  ;D ;D

Well XQD appears not to be an option for Canon
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Re: Canon EOS R full frame mirrorless camera
« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2018, 17:10:35 »
Found this recently

https://photorumors.com/2018/08/31/this-is-the-new-canon-eos-r-full-frame-mirrorless-camera/

What dragged my attention:
it is lighter than the Nikon Zx
Nikon Zx has smaller width but increased height and less thickness
AF is working until -6 EV so advantageous
"just" 30 Mpx

Mount: inner diameter just 54 mm, flange back 20 mm (compared to 16) and 12 pins (so one more than Nikon)

Still unclear which X synch speed is the shortest

less ISO range

THREE lens adapters for which purpose ever


And as Canon has announced a 28-70 f/2 lens we will probably see something like that in the upcoming years to be released
by Competitor Nikon
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