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Michael Erlewine

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Re: The new Nikon mirrorless system
« Reply #585 on: October 15, 2018, 21:51:00 »
Michael, why don't you use the L-bracket on the FTZ adapter all the time for the work?  Currently there should be no lens you can mount on Z7 wiithou FTZ...

I don't always want to use non-native lenses, so its apples and oranges. I don't want the FTZ on all the time. The L-Bracket is more stable on the camera, but it is pretty good on the FTZ as well. I need portrait and landscape mode on both and they can't be on at the same time, so there I am caught between the devil and the deep blue sea. I will also see what RRS comes up with. They may have a better solution.
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Re: The new Nikon mirrorless system
« Reply #586 on: October 18, 2018, 04:10:10 »
i'm still enjoying the Z7, although it's limitations relative to the D850 are definitely becoming clearer, and they primarily have to do with focus. i'd say most of my shots with the f/1.8 primes of moving subjects are out of focus. this (and EVFs) has always been my issue with mirrorless cameras, and i don't think nikon has solved it. still a fabulous camera for many many uses.

focus peaking at larger apertures seems unreliable, and in particular there is something about using the z7 + ftz + 19mm pc-e which is very awkward and easy to screw up. you don't want to hold the thing only by the camera, but since the lens shifts there isn't a great place to grab the FTZ, and most of the rest of the smooth part of the lens is focus ring. obviously this lens is often used on a tripod, but i have often used it handheld on the d850 with absolutely stellar results. i was hopeful that the evf of the Z7 would make it easier to use still, since you wouldn't have to look at the rear LCD to focus it. sadly not, it's just ergonomically very awkward.

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Re: The new Nikon mirrorless system
« Reply #587 on: October 18, 2018, 20:37:15 »
A Sun shade greatly adds to the comfort when handling the 19mm PC-E, even on Z7
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Re: The new Nikon mirrorless system
« Reply #588 on: October 19, 2018, 11:58:45 »
Regarding L-brackets etc. This 'Video' cage has some huge advantages re stability and interference, or lack of it  ;)


https://www.smallrig.com/smallrig-cage-for-nikon-z6-nikon-z7-camera-2243.html


Something similar could easily be connected also to the FTZ adapter or via a combination of both,,, Just a heads up for you all ;)


Looks cleaver and stable with the attachment to one ot the strap eyes. Similar to RRS.
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Re: The new Nikon mirrorless system
« Reply #589 on: October 19, 2018, 21:22:18 »
Markins has just released 2 types of L-plate for Z6/Z7:

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Re: The new Nikon mirrorless system
« Reply #590 on: October 20, 2018, 01:51:03 »
Markins has just released 2 types of L-plate for Z6/Z7:

Do you have a link? I would like to see how they handle the FTZ adapter with a camera attached in the photo.
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Re: The new Nikon mirrorless system
« Reply #591 on: October 20, 2018, 04:41:03 »
Does that "video" cage, as did the Df, put the the fun back into photography?

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Re: The new Nikon mirrorless system
« Reply #592 on: October 20, 2018, 08:52:03 »
Does that "video" cage, as did the Df, put the the fun back into photography?

Hard to see how that could be, as the caged camera is unlikely to provide a good grip for free-hand shooting. Pleased to be proved wrong though, as this is the first impression only.

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Re: The new Nikon mirrorless system
« Reply #593 on: October 20, 2018, 10:49:56 »
Regarding L-brackets etc. This 'Video' cage has some huge advantages re stability and interference, or lack of it  ;)


https://www.smallrig.com/smallrig-cage-for-nikon-z6-nikon-z7-camera-2243.html


Something similar could easily be connected also to the FTZ adapter or via a combination of both,,, Just a heads up for you all ;)


Looks cleaver and stable with the attachment to one ot the strap eyes. Similar to RRS.
Eric, I bought the Smallrig L-plate
https://www.smallrig.com/smallrig-l-bracket-for-sony-a7iii-a7m3-a7riii-a9-2122.html
for my Sony a7iii.   It works well except not an easy fit for use of the Techart Pro so I took a small metal file to it and now it works fine.   I just used a black magic marker to 'paint' the silver bare metal.   Adds good height but is slightly heavy.
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Re: The new Nikon mirrorless system
« Reply #594 on: October 20, 2018, 11:32:27 »
Noone speaks about the Z6. I can imagine that a Z6:

  • has better low ISO and better high ISO IQ than the D5
  • is a neat and light carry always package with Novoflex MTZ and a Leica M mount lens or a ZENIT 1/35mm
  • has a nice tonality comparable to the D600
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Re: The new Nikon mirrorless system
« Reply #595 on: October 20, 2018, 11:39:32 »
Z6 isn't publicly available -- yet. I have ordered it, though. Expect it to be useful mainly for the reasons listed by Frank.

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Re: The new Nikon mirrorless system
« Reply #596 on: October 20, 2018, 18:30:33 »
Z6 isn't publicly available -- yet. I have ordered it, though. Expect it to be useful mainly for the reasons listed by Frank.

what about adaptation of the non Aid glass to the Z series???
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Re: The new Nikon mirrorless system
« Reply #597 on: October 20, 2018, 19:31:01 »
Noone speaks about the Z6. I can imagine that a Z6:

  • has better low ISO and better high ISO IQ than the D5
  • is a neat and light carry always package with Novoflex MTZ and a Leica M mount lens or a ZENIT 1/35mm
  • has a nice tonality comparable to the D600

Right, to me it seems the Z6 would make a better companion to the D850 than the Z7, if versatility was the aim. 

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Re: The new Nikon mirrorless system
« Reply #598 on: October 20, 2018, 19:41:11 »
I guess silent shooting at a theatrical performance or in other silent low light areas is a good way to utilize the Z6. I still fo not like the ergonomics
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Re: The new Nikon mirrorless system
« Reply #599 on: October 22, 2018, 20:34:17 »
On the EVF:
It is the best I’ve tried out. Sony, Fujifilm, Leica...Nikon’s above them all.