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plant identification, help please
« on: April 24, 2018, 19:48:57 »
Is this vine something to be concerned about? It will soon spread to my property.

Thank you,

Sam
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Re: plant identification, help please
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2018, 20:42:25 »
Nightshade family?

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« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2018, 21:54:45 »
Fons,

Thank you, I had not thought of that. I will expand my search.

I was worried that it might be one of the Toxicodendrons. My search for poison oak or poison ivy produced pictures that, to me, do not resemble the other pictures that were produced. Maybe I do not understand what to compare

Sam
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« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2018, 22:14:48 »
Sam, with a question like this knowing your location, if only roughly might narrow down the options?

The leaf shape is very distinctive, that's what I have been looking for, but some sort of location might help too.
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« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2018, 22:15:16 »
I donot properly recognize the plant it may be similar or related to Parthenocissus semicordata.

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« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2018, 22:32:51 »
...some sort of location might help too.

I live in a small town inside San Antonio, Texas. A code compliance officer provided this visual guide. I will take and post another picture of the younger growth, but I think it matches the poison ivy (summer) illustration.

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Re: plant identification, help please
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2018, 22:36:06 »
Your plant doesn't look like the poison ivy.

Pictures of inflorescences, flowers, or fruits are always beneficial for plant identification.

My best guess is a Cissus.

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« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2018, 23:09:22 »
What about Rhus aromatica (Fragrant Sumac) ?

https://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/98024/

The link notes that it is sometimes confused with Poison Ivy but points out differences.
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Re: plant identification, help please
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2018, 23:13:54 »
Cissus trifoliata?
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Re: plant identification, help please
« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2018, 23:15:28 »
What I thought was clearly 3 separate leaves on the older growth looks like a single leaf on the new.

Here is a new picture higher up the tree.
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Re: plant identification, help please
« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2018, 23:48:04 »
The foliage is trifoliate or deeply three-lobed thus Cissus seems a good candidate guess. We would need fertile shots with flowers or fruit to come any further, though.

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« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2018, 23:59:10 »

Thank you Bjørn, "not poison ivy" is exactly the news I hoped to hear.

Thank you Seapy. Searching on Cissus trifoliata found this link that looks right to me.
https://uvalde.tamu.edu/herbarium/trees-shrubs-common-name-index/cow-itch/

John and Fons thank you. I followed up on your useful suggestions. They were very interesting and I hope I may have your help again.
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« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2018, 00:11:53 »
The foliage is trifoliate or deeply three-lobed thus Cissus seems a good candidate guess. We would need fertile shots with flowers or fruit to come any further, though.

Birna,

If the vine is allowed to survive I will record flowers and fruit when available. I am not feeling quite as hostile toward it now. I was getting "Day of the Triffids" flashbacks a few hours ago.  :)

Best regards,

Sam
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Re: plant identification, help please
« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2018, 01:05:46 »
If you look again at the photographs which the Texan botanist sent you, you will see that Poison Ivy has groups of three separate leaflets (each with their own petioles) but your plant has tri-lobed compound leaves born on a single leaf stalk.

Further identifiers of Poison Ivy are hairy vines with rootlets all along the vine; and glossy red leaflets in early Spring which turn matte-green as they mature — all of which are shown in those pictures.

"Leaves of three: let it be"!!

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Re: plant identification, help please
« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2018, 08:10:37 »
https://garden.org/plants/view/81063/Sorrelvine-Cissus-trifoliata/
It's a kind of Grape Ivy, Cissus trifoliata.