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Forced Back to the Nikon D810
« on: February 27, 2018, 06:46:13 »
My Nikon D850 is off to repair; don’t even ask what happened. Just mark it down as the dreaded “user error.” In the meantime, I am using my faithful Nikon D810 and doing my best to keep shooting. And here is why I am writing:

It was a real shock to go back to the D810 after using the D850. I had no idea what a (minor) hardship it would be or, another way of saying this is, how easily I slid into and got used to an upgraded camera body like the D850.

I’m not sure how many D850 owners will agree with me, but the first thing I noticed is how very much better the color is on the new D850 compared to the D810. As mentioned, I just went along with the upgrade and quickly forgot the various struggles to get color right with the D810. Anyway, I see a big difference now that I am back to struggling with the D810!

And the rest of the shocks were more like tremors, like I am already quite used to the pixel increase in the D850 sensor and appreciate it and I was totally used to the silent shooting mode. It was hard going back to mirror-up and clicking twice. And the LiveView on the D810 is way inferior to what the D850 can use. That would be the second most-important (painful) difference I noted.

Anyway, I’m going to live, but I deeply appreciate my D850 and wish it god speed to get back to me soon. I know; I'm ungrateful to criticize the D810 and should be more appreciative. Forgive me.

Here I am just playing with the recent Nikon fisheye zoom (8mm-15mm). How do you folks get rid of the blue ring around the image? This is a quick shot of my mini-studio.

I can’t believe all the stuff I think I need around to take photos! 
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Re: FORCED BACK TO THE D810
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2018, 06:54:35 »
I thought the blue ring was a feature.  :)

Pity poor me. My D800 has an AA filter.

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Re: Forced Back to the Nikon D810
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2018, 07:40:34 »
The "blue ring" is indeed a characteristic common to the fisheye designs.

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Re: Forced Back to the Nikon D810
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2018, 07:41:01 »
Blue ring? I like it. If I want to get rid of it I use the elliptical marquee in Photoshop to create a circular selection or magic wand non consequtive and then refine shrink by a few pixels, but this function has a new place and name now
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Re: Forced Back to the Nikon D810
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2018, 07:47:52 »
It's here in this image, not as pronounced as yours, I put it down to the blue lighting reflecting in the lens. Same 8-15mm Nikon demo lens.

http://nikongear.net/revival/index.php/topic,7153.msg115221.html#msg115221

I don't 'mind' it too much but I realise it could clash or spoil some images.

You need to lean forwards and keep the hands out of frame at 8mm, not easy!!!  ;D
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Re: Forced Back to the Nikon D810
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2018, 07:49:52 »
It's here in this image, not as pronounced as yours, I put it down to the blue lighting reflecting in the lens. Same 8-15mm Nikon demo lens.

http://nikongear.net/revival/index.php/topic,7153.msg115221.html#msg115221

I don't 'mind' it too much but I realise it could clash or spoil some images.

You need to lean forwards and keep the hands out of frame at 8mm, not easy!!!  ;D

I am just playing with it. I kind of like my hands and feet in this image. It adds to the clutter. LOL.
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Re: Forced Back to the Nikon D810
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2018, 07:58:03 »
Now if you had your nose and eyes you could say "Kilroy was here'  ;)
Your work space is sooooo neat and orderly.
I really like your wood flooring and do not mind the blue ring.
Hope your D850 returns soonest  :)
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Re: Forced Back to the Nikon D810
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2018, 08:00:55 »
Blue ring? I like it. If I want to get rid of it I use the elliptical marquee in Photoshop to create a circular selection or magic wand non consequtive and then refine shrink by a few pixels, but this function has a new place and name now

Thanks.
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Re: Forced Back to the Nikon D810
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2018, 09:09:36 »
D850? Superb color and rendering style. Very satisfactory. I would miss her too in case .... But: I have the D500 as a second body that is also wonderful

PS The D500 is much better than the D600, the D810 is only gradually better than the D600. The D850 tops them all but she is only gradually better than the D500. It is a generation gap. Maybe you need a second D850?
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Re: Forced Back to the Nikon D810
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2018, 10:30:24 »
If the blue doesn't go with an image why not drop the blue channel in the extreme periphery of the images rather than creating harsh circular crop of the image. Another possibility could be to have a soft edged selection so as to crop to black with a feathered edge. It should be easy to simply drag the selection to the image in Photoshop.

Hard edged, soft edges, blue, neutral; it seems like a matter of preference to me. I'd play with it if I could.

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Re: Forced Back to the Nikon D810
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2018, 16:36:23 »
the 8-15 = -7 is a great and fun lens to use for sure!
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Re: Forced Back to the Nikon D810
« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2018, 18:18:13 »
If you press SHIFT using the eliptical marquee tool you get a circle.
A generous NG member, Kuri, shared this tip to get a perfect border to the circular image:
https://youtu.be/v4Jq2nIX9eE
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Re: Forced Back to the Nikon D810
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2018, 20:11:19 »
The D810 is the only camera I know.  Have been using it for 18 months. I am still trying to master my camera.  Find that you make better images if you can use the tool correctly in given situations. My photography has improved at the pace of my better understanding of my camera. I have been doing LR and PS for less than one year.  In the beginning, I tried, mostly no success, to heroically fix unsatisfactory images with post-processing.  Now, my final photos are very much better because I am getting much better images out of my camera.

I looked very hard at the 850. More pixels.  Better high ISO.  Other things better.  But no fill-flash.  Low light and night photography should not be better because Nikon did nothing on the low end of ISO.   Both at 64. The sensors seem about the same size - but, the programming could be improved/different.

For experts, the 850 could/should make a difference.  But I am not there yet.  I would like to see side by side images made with each camera, using the same subject matter, settings, technique and post-processing.  If the 850 images are meaningfully better, then I will re-think the matter.

Nice shot of your workroom/studio.  Very nice space.  My Nikon camera  + Nikon lenses  + peripheral gear and traveling tripod fit into a waterproof backpack and weigh 35 lbs.  At this moment, I do not need more or better stuff.  I need better knowledge and experience.

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Re: Forced Back to the Nikon D810
« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2018, 18:38:22 »
If the blue doesn't go with an image why not drop the blue channel in the extreme periphery of the images rather than creating harsh circular crop of the image. Another possibility could be to have a soft edged selection so as to crop to black with a feathered edge. It should be easy to simply drag the selection to the image in Photoshop.

Hard edged, soft edges, blue, neutral; it seems like a matter of preference to me. I'd play with it if I could.

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There at a lot of ways Nikon may send us a small program to eliminate this ring. But this action requires Nikon think about its customers, and it isn't a Nikon's first priority, to think about its own loyal customers. Ricoh, Fuji, Sony, even Canon, are thinking, but Nikon...  LZ

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Re: Forced Back to the Nikon D810
« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2018, 03:12:48 »
it was the other way for me. I liked the D700 colors more compared to the D800.  :o :o :o