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Birna Rørslett

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Re: Repair of the Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/4 Ai!
« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2018, 10:48:39 »
I probably have a spare K3 floating around in the chaos ensuing after my recent move out of Oslo. Will bring it to Spain -- if I can locate it first :D

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Re: Repair of the Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/4 Ai!
« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2018, 11:19:17 »
Looking forward to meet again, and hopefully you find something in one of the many boxes :)

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Re: Repair of the Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/4 Ai!
« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2018, 20:22:42 »
You are also missing the AIS 105/4 micro, to complete your collection of lens designs using the same optical design :)

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Re: Repair of the Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/4 Ai!
« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2018, 21:45:31 »
And the K ;)

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Re: Repair of the Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/4 Ai!
« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2018, 21:50:59 »
Doesn't the rear element of the bellows micro 105 hit the front element of Ai(s) micro if the former is mounted onto the latter just with K3?  Don't you need, say, a 52mm filter with its glass removed to add some length to K3?
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Re: Repair of the Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/4 Ai!
« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2018, 22:37:50 »
I am not shure, but I will consult Bjørn in order not make any harm to the front element.

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Re: Repair of the Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/4 Ai!
« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2018, 23:05:40 »
The front element of the AI 105/4 micro is recessed (see http://www.destoutz.ch/lens_105mm_f4_178997.html) so I expect it should be safe to use with the K3 and bellows 105 Nikkor, but take care just in case!

And yes the K is also missing, but it is essentially the same as the AI version so you could leave it out :)

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Re: Repair of the Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/4 Ai!
« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2018, 23:05:55 »
As you already know, Bjørn only refers to K3 ring in his classic review.  Maybe I'm overly concerned, but you cannot be too careful.
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Re: Repair of the Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/4 Ai!
« Reply #23 on: March 14, 2018, 19:52:52 »
Doesn't the rear element of the bellows micro 105 hit the front element of Ai(s) micro if the former is mounted onto the latter just with K3?  Don't you need, say, a 52mm filter with its glass removed to add some length to K3?

No problem with that combination. There are space enough.
For a shorter shade, I use the shade from Voigländer 90mm/3.5. That makes it a lot easier to lighten the subject.
There is no illusion, it just looks that way.

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Re: Repair of the Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/4 Ai!
« Reply #24 on: March 14, 2018, 22:41:28 »
Roland and Asle, thank you for the confirmation.  I've had an Ais version just briefly and knew that the front element was recessed "a bit" but didn't realized that is actually recessed "enough".
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Re: Repair of the Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/4 Ai!
« Reply #25 on: March 14, 2018, 22:42:00 »
No problem with that combination. There are space enough.
For a shorter shade, I use the shade from Voigländer 90mm/3.5. That makes it a lot easier to lighten the subject.
I actually tried just by holding the lenses together by hand, an yes the shade is too long. Will see if something appropriate can be found.

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Re: Repair of the Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/4 Ai!
« Reply #26 on: March 14, 2018, 22:45:37 »
I actually tried just by holding the lenses together by hand, an yes the shade is too long. Will see if something appropriate can be found.

Bent, if you get the whole K-ring set, you could use the K4 or K5 ring as a shorter shade.
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Re: Repair of the Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/4 Ai!
« Reply #27 on: March 15, 2018, 05:10:00 »
i got a whole K-ring set for little money at Alps-do  :o :o :o

https://richardhaw.com/2017/12/01/shopping-alps-do-camera/

The shade was handy. I was shooting bugs and it helped protect my lens from pollen and sap (and bugs)

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Re: Repair of the Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/4 Ai!
« Reply #28 on: March 15, 2018, 16:52:13 »
The shade of the 90mm/3.5 is essential a 52-39mm step down ring, and a short tube with 39mm threads. That makes it a effectiv shade even if it is short. And the smaller diameter does also help not shading the subject.
There is no illusion, it just looks that way.