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golunvolo

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Re: RAW Editing Contest, special edition D850
« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2017, 00:17:57 »
Frank, thanks a lot, that so generous of you.

  I have been missing this contest, really. Armando, amazing job; Akira, so delicate.

   D850 and 105mm 1.4....how do you like it?  8)

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Re: RAW Editing Contest, special edition D850
« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2017, 10:07:32 »
I like the 1.4/105E on any camera. For the horses I am quite positive that your 70-200FL is the better choice, but I am on a learning curve and if I manage to shoot sports at f/1.4, I am sure customers will buy my unique "look". Two stops is a lot!
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Re: RAW Editing Contest, special edition D850
« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2017, 12:10:22 »
I´m sure you do. I tried it yesterday in the d500 and all the magic is there in a different way. Your images of the horses in movement at 1.4 are impressive. I actually tried the tracking focus with the d850 and 85mm 1.4 @1.4 and yours confirm the impressions I got. Looking forward for more impressions on the new tool from you.

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Re: RAW Editing Contest, special edition D850
« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2017, 12:24:58 »
Paco: next in line is group area AF-C with the Neo-Noct on the D500 at 10 fps vs. 1.4/105 on the D850 at 7 fps.
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Re: RAW Editing Contest, special edition D850
« Reply #19 on: September 10, 2017, 12:25:58 »
Here's my take on the flower shot.  Edited on my uncalibrated monitor.   :o  I selected the "Flat" picture profile.

Compared to the NEF of D750, the contrast is richer and the color seems to be more pliable.  Resized to the same size as the file originally posted by Frank.

I like the "spotlight" effect of the vignetting of 105E.

Very subtle, near transparent rendering
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Re: RAW Editing Contest, special edition D850
« Reply #20 on: September 10, 2017, 12:43:38 »
Paco: next in line is group area AF-C with the Neo-Noct on the D500 at 10 fps vs. 1.4/105 on the D850 at 7 fps.
   I took yesterday for a walk the d500 with 58mm at night so the experience is fresh.Af in this one is slower but the quality of the images...I find a lot of criticism about this lens in internet. Good thing is a bought mine new with a big discount maybe because of that. Let me know what you think.

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Re: RAW Editing Contest, special edition D850
« Reply #21 on: September 10, 2017, 12:50:40 »
Akira, so delicate.

Very subtle, near transparent rendering

Paco and Frank, thanks for kind words.
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Re: RAW Editing Contest, special edition D850
« Reply #22 on: September 10, 2017, 18:26:47 »
   I took yesterday for a walk the d500 with 58mm at night so the experience is fresh.Af in this one is slower but the quality of the images...I find a lot of criticism about this lens in internet. Good thing is a bought mine new with a big discount maybe because of that. Let me know what you think.

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Re: RAW Editing Contest, special edition D850
« Reply #23 on: September 11, 2017, 00:36:05 »
Here is the horse again , now processed in PS ACR - raw conversion, flat profile, reduce highlights (which in ACR works) , a bit more saturation , curves to add contrast , NR set to 0 both luminosity and color

So much faster than CNXD and a very nice result, much closer to what can be accomplished using the CNXD/CNX2 vs. the results I get with the D800 files

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Re: RAW Editing Contest, special edition D850
« Reply #24 on: September 11, 2017, 01:07:46 »
Armando: Wonderful colors in the whole picture, but a lot of chrominance noise in the crop.
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Re: RAW Editing Contest, special edition D850
« Reply #25 on: September 22, 2017, 22:23:12 »
chrominance noise in pulled shadows is the key in the following two D850-shots, where scene contrast is very high:

http://zentralkraft.com/DSC_1923.NEF
http://zentralkraft.com/DSC_1882.NEF

Try to pull the shadows on this D500-file to compare the behavior:

http://zentralkraft.com/ZENTRALKRAFT/KO7_5226.NEF
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Re: RAW Editing Contest, special edition D850
« Reply #26 on: September 22, 2017, 23:01:18 »
1882 is in ACR about 2.5 points underexposed.  Made a correction for that as well as a slight correction for shadows and blacks.  And a small correction for blown highlights.

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Re: RAW Editing Contest, special edition D850
« Reply #27 on: September 22, 2017, 23:17:44 »
It could be argued that DSC_1882 is 3-4 stops under exposed. Considering that I'd say the noise is handled quite well upon recovery. I'm not sure what HDR process you used in your original post of this picture, but it did the sky no justice.

1- original
2- ACR auto button was pressed, no other adjustments, no noise reduction applied.
3- 100% crop


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Re: RAW Editing Contest, special edition D850
« Reply #28 on: September 23, 2017, 00:20:40 »
Thank you, Charlie! Clearly Adobe Camera RAW is to be considered over Nikon Capture NX-D.

The shot was intentionally underexposed to test the reportedly existence of an ISO invariant Sensor that allows for exposing for the lights and then lifting the shadows without significant penalty.

ACR seems to excel at just that and finish the race a few lenghts before NX-D finishes.

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Re: RAW Editing Contest, special edition D850
« Reply #29 on: September 23, 2017, 05:11:54 »
my attempts

1. acr - manually move shadows, highlights and exposure
2. cnxd - CNX2 d-lightning with selection points excluding the sky

Frank, thanks for sharing your files, it is fun to experiment

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