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Randy Stout

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Re: D850 - The Superb; the Good & OK; the Ugly
« Reply #30 on: September 22, 2017, 17:39:11 »
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Re: D850 - The Superb; the Good & OK; the Ugly
« Reply #31 on: September 22, 2017, 18:21:05 »
I really like the example, Erik!

Did you work with layers or is the picture a direct RAW conversion?

BTW

The D500 is much more civilized in the recovery business, two more examples:

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Re: D850 - The Superb; the Good & OK; the Ugly
« Reply #32 on: September 22, 2017, 20:06:49 »
The D500 is much more civilized in the recovery business, two more examples:

I used to fight with back lit/high contrast portraits and try to save all highlight detail everywhere at the expense of shadow detail with the "I'll fix it in post" train of thought. I've since come to realize that if a person is the subject and the weight of the exposure leans towards exposing them properly, not saving background highlights, the result is often better skin tones and overall appearance of the person. Of course I'll still try to mitigate blown highlights as much as I can.

These last two D500 pictures have much smaller angle of view, and as such dynamic range, than the D850 pictures you posted so perhaps not a fair comparison? Also in my experience, which admittedly is not with the D850, raising shadows on a pictures that include large bright areas, such as blown out skies, always introduces more noise than raising shadows of a scene with less dynamic range.




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Re: D850 - The Superb; the Good & OK; the Ugly
« Reply #33 on: September 23, 2017, 05:56:07 »
Solution might be to use another RAW converter that is better in shadow pulling. I hear ACR trumps NXD here.

Where does one get a version of CNX-D that will open a D850 NEF?

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Re: D850 - The Superb; the Good & OK; the Ugly
« Reply #34 on: September 23, 2017, 09:07:47 »
Where does one get a version of CNX-D that will open a D850 NEF?

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Since 6 September it is downloadable at NikonUSA.com but there are other language versions too. I tend to use my image editing software in the English language.
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Re: D850 - The Superb; the Good & OK; the Ugly
« Reply #35 on: September 23, 2017, 13:52:47 »
Where does one get a version of CNX-D that will open a D850 NEF?

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As already said, it's been available for a while now .. but don't hold your breath waiting for it to do something!
CNX-D is quite terrible with even easy files, bad with harder D8xx type files... and pretty much useless with these D850 files.

Don't bother wasting the time to download .. wait till they fix whatever bug precludes it from doing anything on D850 files.

The old ViewNX2 still 'owns it' in terms of ability to do anything useful(on D800E files that I have) ... why they changed is a major mystery.
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Re: D850 - The Superb; the Good & OK; the Ugly
« Reply #36 on: September 23, 2017, 16:43:49 »
I can use the latest CNXD version 1.4.6 to open and apply camera settings to the D850 files

It is ok for experimenting, but it is slow and I can't imagine using it for more than a couple of files
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Re: D850 - The Superb; the Good & OK; the Ugly
« Reply #37 on: September 24, 2017, 00:51:26 »
Thanks. No layers, it is processed as described, PP in ACR.
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