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Re: Nikon D850 previews, commentary - first reviews
« Reply #210 on: September 20, 2017, 07:55:25 »
Schwett. Great to see your SF pictures. I always loved your work. Hope to see you next time around. My brother will have moved into their house in Fremont by then, so easy pleasy
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« Reply #211 on: September 20, 2017, 08:21:15 »
One downside. She is a reliable workhorse so I get many more keepers although I also get more picky. First event with D850/500 combo. I took the 1.8/85 plus 1.8/20 and interchanged lenses on the fly, so I had 20, 30, 85 and 127mm FOV wise. Great set. Great results
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Re: Nikon D850 previews, commentary - first reviews
« Reply #212 on: September 20, 2017, 08:34:28 »
Despite the obvious enlargement and clarity of the D850 view finder, I could not reliably focus a Noct-Nikkor with it under realistic indoors conditions. That was a let-down from my point of view. The Df still is much better with the Noct. Perhaps a split-image screen would do better with the D850?

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Re: Nikon D850 previews, commentary - first reviews
« Reply #213 on: September 20, 2017, 09:15:57 »
As it turns out, even with a reliable connection between D850 and iPhone, Snapbridge is useless for GPS data. At least if one does not want to have the same location recorded for two hours  :-[

From the D850 Menu Guide, page 179:
"Select Yes to download location data from the smart device and embed them in pictures taken over the next two hours ...". Another proof that wonders never cease to exist  ;D

I wonder how much collective effort would be needed to convince Nikon to make the built-in BT connection to work with BT GPS mice (aka GPS trackers). Pending that, question is if a Foolography Unleashed '09 dongle (with the D800 modification) will fit.


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Re: Nikon D850 previews, commentary - first reviews
« Reply #214 on: September 20, 2017, 09:34:50 »
" Pending that, question is if a Foolography Unleashed '09 dongle (with the D800 modification) will fit."

It will.

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Re: Nikon D850 previews, commentary - first reviews
« Reply #215 on: September 20, 2017, 11:25:19 »
Nikon assigned the task of acquiring the required material for D850 presentation videos and campaign posters to 4 photographers, one of whom is David Yarrow (from Scotland). I was invited to a preview of the upcoming presentation of the very large prints Nikon intend to use for their advertising of the D850. Here is the massive print of a South African lion (taken with the AFS 200/2 David informed me) about to be added to the exhibition.

I have to admit the quality of these photos, technically and otherwise,  were excellent. Apparently the D850 is a camera model to be reckoned with.

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Re: Nikon D850 previews, commentary - first reviews
« Reply #216 on: September 20, 2017, 12:27:26 »
Despite the obvious enlargement and clarity of the D850 view finder, I could not reliably focus a Noct-Nikkor with it under realistic indoors conditions. That was a let-down from my point of view. The Df still is much better with the Noct. Perhaps a split-image screen would do better with the D850?

Comparably unhappy with the MF Quality as mentioned before I'd like Nikon to offer a replacement for the focussing screen, be it as a paid for service or better as an act of generosity.

The D500 is much better in the MF department!!
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Re: Nikon D850 previews, commentary - first reviews
« Reply #217 on: September 20, 2017, 12:30:07 »
I wonder if it a question of the focusing screen used, or the optical design of the viewfinder itself that causes this difference?

One possibility which I've been thinking about is that the Df mirror could be designed to reflect more of the light to the viewfinder and less to the AF module whereas to get top AF performance the D850 may divert more of the light hitting the mirror to the AF module instead of the viewfinder. It would be interesting to measure the transmission/reflection coefficients for the main mirrors of the different cameras. Certainly the Multi-CAM 20k AF module covers a larger area of the image so the semitransparent section of the mirror could be larger than with cameras using Multi-CAM 4800.

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Re: Nikon D850 previews, commentary - first reviews
« Reply #218 on: September 20, 2017, 12:35:09 »
The same 20k AF module sits in the D500 and she has a smaller mirror. But both cameras have roughly the same VF brightness. Only difference I see is that the ground glass in the D500 is coarser and thus MF has much more "snap". No wonder it is the focussing screen of the F6
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Re: Nikon D850 previews, commentary - first reviews
« Reply #219 on: September 20, 2017, 12:38:28 »
Can the F6 screen be fit into the D850?

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Re: Nikon D850 previews, commentary - first reviews
« Reply #220 on: September 20, 2017, 12:41:15 »
I hope so. The question is: will you get the right shim or how long will you need for calibration? Is it better to wait for third party offers?
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Re: Nikon D850 previews, commentary - first reviews
« Reply #221 on: September 20, 2017, 14:09:33 »
I hope so. The question is: will you get the right shim or how long will you need for calibration? Is it better to wait for third party offers?

I believe focusingscreen.com have offered F6 screens modified to fit newer cameras and I would think they'd offer it for the D850 as well. I have not used their products. I'm wondering which company Tetsuro Goto was referring to when they mentioned that a Taiwanese company makes them.

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Re: Nikon D850 previews, commentary - first reviews
« Reply #222 on: September 20, 2017, 14:28:11 »
Focusingscreen.com is based in Taiwan.

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Re: Nikon D850 previews, commentary - first reviews
« Reply #223 on: September 20, 2017, 15:55:38 »
I believe focusingscreen.com have offered F6 screens modified to fit newer cameras and I would think they'd offer it for the D850 as well. I have not used their products. I'm wondering which company Tetsuro Goto was referring to when they mentioned that a Taiwanese company makes them.

I like a coarse full matte to help focussing my AF-S lenses if the AF does not what I want it to do. The 1.4/105 has 2mm of DOF at portrait distance and I cannot focus and reframe
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Re: Nikon D850 previews, commentary - first reviews
« Reply #224 on: September 20, 2017, 20:30:12 »
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