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Re: Nikon D850 previews, commentary - first reviews
« Reply #150 on: September 09, 2017, 13:57:14 »
If you expose the interior to water I'm sure the electronics will be fried before the body shows signs of corrosion.

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Re: Nikon D850 previews, commentary - first reviews
« Reply #151 on: September 09, 2017, 14:23:13 »
My D500 shows significant wear on the roof after only one year of usage. Looks like a F5 coming back from war...
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Re: Nikon D850 previews, commentary - first reviews
« Reply #152 on: September 09, 2017, 14:46:58 »
I've shot half a million frames on digital cameras over the years and I don't think any of them got a visible mark on them from use. Sometimes the shooting happens in intense circumstances. Not war, but events ;) Getting sticky on the outside from sweat is the worst that has happened.

So if I get this wifi SD card, what kind of software do I use to download images and control the camera from e.g. ipad? Would the images be stored also on that card, or in the XQD card? What kind of transfer speeds would be realistically expected? Thanks.

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Re: Nikon D850 previews, commentary - first reviews
« Reply #153 on: September 09, 2017, 15:27:23 »
Ilkka. None of my other cameras showed this kind of wear, except maybe for the FM2, which I used in rough circumstances esp outdoors and I had her from 1988 til 2004. I guess there is something wrong with the coloring on mine
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Re: Nikon D850 previews, commentary - first reviews
« Reply #154 on: September 09, 2017, 15:53:16 »
Most if not all my cameras have this kind of wear, often even more pronounced. Nothing to bother about in my opinion.

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Re: Nikon D850 previews, commentary - first reviews
« Reply #155 on: September 09, 2017, 16:16:32 »
I guess there is something wrong with the coloring on mine

Are you using the same bag with the D500 as with your other cameras? There can be differences in how rough the bag padding material is on the surface.

Rough ones tend to be safe in that the gear rarely drops out by accident, but they can cause some surface wear.

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Re: Nikon D850 previews, commentary - first reviews
« Reply #156 on: September 09, 2017, 16:53:57 »
Are you using the same bag with the D500 as with your other cameras? There can be differences in how rough the bag padding material is on the surface.
Rough ones tend to be safe in that the gear rarely drops out by accident, but they can cause some surface wear.

I bought the ThinkTank Stret Walker Hard Drive together with the D500 (~52.000 clicks), yet the D600 has been in there all the time and used quite as often. The D600 (+79.000 Clicks) does not show comparable wear and I use her since 2013. The D3 (~126.00 clicks) does not show this kind of wear and I use her since 2008.

It can be that the Camera strap has an influece though: The D500 is the only one I use on a quick acces strap by Optech/USA, which means the roof points to my body. All the others worn on a normal strap, sometimes three cameras at a time, meaning the roof points upwards
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Re: Nikon D850 previews, commentary - first reviews
« Reply #157 on: September 09, 2017, 17:50:19 »
It can be that the Camera strap has an influece though: The D500 is the only one I use on a quick acces strap by Optech/USA, which means the roof points to my body. All the others worn on a normal strap, sometimes three cameras at a time, meaning the roof points upwards

When I saw the image seem to me the camera is being rubbed on something while transported, and with your descriptions it seems to be the case
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Re: Nikon D850 previews, commentary - first reviews
« Reply #158 on: September 09, 2017, 17:59:40 »
These look to be thorough Reviews based a few days intensive shooting - especially on the Sensor performance  -Part 2

https://gwegner.de/review/nikon-d850-review-teil-1/

https://gwegner.de/review/nikon-d850-praxis-test-und-review-teil-2-bildqualitaet-vergleich-mit-d750/

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D850 Df, Z7 20 f4 AI 28 f2.8AIS 45 f2.8AIP 55mm 2.8AIS+60 f2.8G Micro 58 f1.4G 85 f1.4D 105 f2.5AIS 135 f2DC, 180 f2.8D, 200 f2G VRII 400 f2.8G VRII 300 f4E PF 500 f5.6E P, 18-35 G, 24-120 f4G, 24-85 f/3.5-4.5G ED 70-180 Micro f4-5.6D 70-200 f2.8E FL, Zeiss Distagons (15 f2.8 21 f2.8 25 f2)

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Re: Nikon D850 previews, commentary - first reviews
« Reply #159 on: September 09, 2017, 19:09:58 »
Nikon has been using magnesium alloy in cameras for years. The Nikon F5 use it. It's a proven technology. 
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Re: Nikon D850 previews, commentary - first reviews
« Reply #160 on: September 09, 2017, 19:40:12 »
These look to be thorough Reviews based a few days intensive shooting - especially on the Sensor performance  -Part 2
https://gwegner.de/review/nikon-d850-review-teil-1/
https://gwegner.de/review/nikon-d850-praxis-test-und-review-teil-2-bildqualitaet-vergleich-mit-d750/
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Re: Nikon D850 previews, commentary - first reviews
« Reply #161 on: September 09, 2017, 23:14:19 »
A quick scan with up to now 9 of my AF-S Nikkors, I haven't found one yet with which AF calibration is needed. Good, I hate to do AF calibration  >:(

Well, of course too good to be true and in the meantime I found a few Nikkors that really need fine tuning. The built-in AF tuning procedure does not always give proper results, so each lens has to be checked and rechecked carefully for truly accurate focus worthy the high-res sensor. I know, in return for this one-time hassle and frustration we get that gorgeous, big OVF that is even beter in this iteration.

Also, a conclusion of today is that despite being more selective, the AF "green dot" is still not accurate enough for truly precise MF. Live view or a golden eye still needed for that.

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Re: Nikon D850 previews, commentary - first reviews
« Reply #162 on: September 10, 2017, 08:52:09 »
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Also, a conclusion of today is that despite being more selective, the AF "green dot" is still not accurate enough for truly precise MF. Live view or a golden eye still needed for that.
... so I'll pass on the D850, as tempting as it is (no doubt a significant upgrade from my D800). Accurate MF has been of growing importance to me in the past few years, and the Df remains my camera of choice.
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Re: Nikon D850 previews, commentary - first reviews
« Reply #163 on: September 10, 2017, 09:56:19 »
... so I'll pass on the D850, as tempting as it is (no doubt a significant upgrade from my D800). Accurate MF has been of growing importance to me in the past few years, and the Df remains my camera of choice.

I am already looking for a replacement focussing screen
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Re: Nikon D850 previews, commentary - first reviews
« Reply #164 on: September 10, 2017, 12:53:10 »
... so I'll pass on the D850, as tempting as it is (no doubt a significant upgrade from my D800). Accurate MF has been of growing importance to me in the past few years, and the Df remains my camera of choice.

It is a significant upgrade to the D800/D800E, no doubt about that. I do not have experience with the Df, so cannot compare MF capabilities between the two. I don't have a golden eye either, but on the D850 I can focus the MF lenses with reasonable accuracy. Better than on the D800E.
The green dot  "follows" AF rather consistently and accurately; one can only wonder if it would make sense to be able to fine tune the dot for MF lenses...