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Updated D850 specs
« on: August 11, 2017, 15:57:58 »
Set PP Slides leaked but in Chinese

https://nikonrumors.com/2017/08/11/nikon-d850-presentation-slides-part-2.aspx/

EDIT > now translated https://nikonrumors.com/2017/08/11/translation-of-the-leaked-nikon-d850-slides.aspx/#more-114692

Translated in Comment :
RC Jenkins • an hour ago
::45.75MP FX sensor
::7 FPS; 6FPS with AF (no grip)
::9FPS, when using the MB-D18a battery grip
::51-image buffer (14-bit raw)
::3.2", 2.36-million-dot rear touchscreen. Improved gestures
::4K video
::ISO 64-25600 (native)
::No low-pass filter
::153 point AF system, with 30% wider coverage than the D810
::0.75x magnification optical viewfinder--largest ever on FX
::all AF points AF in -3EV; center point -4
::Auto-focus-bracket mode--the camera can take up to 300 pictures, varying focus between from close-infinity. User can choose 10 levels of focus steps. Roughly 5 FPS, can be software stacked.
::Fully-silent electronic shutter mode in live view. No mechanical movement. Can also shoot up to 30FPS for an 8MP image using the electronic shutter.
::Very precise, small AF points. Display is 1/2 the size now
::Variable sized raw: small, medium, large
::Auto-Scene modes & improved white balance
::SD + XQD
::Supports wireless trigger WT-7

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Re: Updated D850 specs
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2017, 16:48:45 »
A lot of nice improvements. I really like the 0.75x viewfinder. Loosing the pop-up is a good thing. At least I think the pop-up robbed the pentaprism of needed space and resulted in a lower viewfinder magnification and less manual focus ease.

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By comparison...

F3 (DE-2) 0.8x (The Gold Standard in Viewfinder Comfort for me)
F3HP (DE-3) 0.75x
F6 0.74x (Never tried the F6)
F4, F5 0.7x
D800/E 0.7x
D810 0.7x

The FM2n, FE2 were 0.86x and the FM3a was 0.83x, this from memory. I checked the manuals for those listed above.
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Re: Updated D850 specs
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2017, 17:29:12 »
Looking good - edited first post to add link to detailed translations of the chinese

https://nikonrumors.com/2017/08/11/translation-of-the-leaked-nikon-d850-slides.aspx/#more-114692

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Re: Updated D850 specs
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2017, 17:36:04 »
NikonRumors.com posted some more information on the D850 from leaked advertising photos. See that site for more details. Here is what most interests me:

No low-pass filter

ISO from 64 to 25600 (hope it is the same or better ISO 64)

No mechanical vibration using LiveView for still images.

New “Natural Light” AWB

45-Mpx

Uses Expeed 5 (same as D5)

Focus-Stacking: Focus-adjusting system, max of 300 layers, customized release (0 to 30 sec), customizable 10 steps).
130% frame coverage compared to the D810

Uses D5 153 AF System

This camera is looking better and better.
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Re: Updated D850 specs
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2017, 17:51:17 »
$4000 or more, including vertical grip if you want full specifications,  9fps

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Re: Updated D850 specs
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2017, 18:23:54 »
Here is the updated translation from latest link posted on NikonRumours - see here for the original ppoint slides:
Read more: https://nikonrumors.com/2017/08/11/translation-of-the-leaked-nikon-d850-slides.aspx/#ixzz4pSpaiaFO

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Nikon FX DSLR has 45.75M pixels.  Around 9 fps* and more enhanced features.  Can capture still and sport photos with sharp images.
* When using MB-D18 Multi-Power Battery Pack (it should be a new one) plus battery EN-EL18a.
3.2" variangle 2.359M pixel touch LCD screen
- Richer touch functions than D5 & D500
- Could do quick cropping using "I" button during playback
Q1330 should mean D850?
2nd Row of the table:
Playback: Full touch screen (scroll, drag, status bar)
Menu: D5/D500: button operations; Q1330: Full touch screen
Liveview: touch AF, touch shutter (only D500); Q1330: touch menu, touch AF, touch shutter
Info: Q1330: button menu (?)
- 45.75M
- 9 fps * MB-D18 + EN-EN18a
- 8K timelapse
- 4K movie
- ISO 64-25600
- 3.2" 2.36M vari-angle touch screen
- 153 AF system
- 45M quiet shooting mode
- 0.75x OVF magnification
- 180,000 RGB sensor
OVF 0.75x is the largest magnification rate for all existing DSLR in history.

Using famous D5 153 AF system
- 130% frame coverage when compared with D810
- incorporated with AF engine
- center 1 point -4EV AF, all other points -3EV
Focus adjusting system could offer you deeply stacked* picture
* require software from other companies
- Camera will continuously take the nearest focus to infinite focus
- Max nomber of photos: 300 photos
- Focus distance interval could be customized (10 steps)
- Shutter release could be customized (0 to 30 sec)
- Continuous shooting around 5 fps
- Suitable for shooting jewelry,  specimen and landscape

45M pixel gives you clear and sharp high definition image, could satisfy big outdoor advertisement which requires 8K resolution
- No low pass filter
- Standard ISO: 64-25600, boost: ISO: 32 to 108,400
- Using Eexpeed 5 (same as D5) processor, high ISO together with good noise reduction engine, could give you high quality of color reproduction
Pictures: demonstration of with and without low pass filter
45M quiet shooting mode, when releasing the shutter, there is no sound and no mechanical vibration (using live view for still image)
- Only using an electronic shutter
- Suitable for museum or opera that require quiet environment, and Astronomical photography, macro photography and architectural photography which are prone to minor mechanical shutter vibration, so that your image would be sharper
- Around 6 fps under this mode (AF/AE fixed)
- Suitable for sports photography which requires quiet environment, e.g. play golf when player is very concentrating and moving the golf clubs
- Quiet mode could be 30 fps with 8MP image (longest duration 3 seconds, DX mode, quality = normal, AF/AE fixed)

9 fps * (with MB-D18 + EN-EL18a) or 7 fps
- Could continuously shoot 51 frames 14 bit non-compressed raw photos at one time

Low light focus -3EV, greater possibility to take photo under dark situation (same as D5)
Using 180,000 RGB sensor same as D5, better face detection and precise auto adjustment using enhanced scene recognition system.
New Natural Light AWB enable you to have better color reproduction under natural light
- Set to Natural Light AWB, the camera would provide you more concise white balance
- Target for red leafs during autumn, sunset or sunrise, will have more saturated color when compared with [auto1] mode
- When shooting outdoor, no need to set white balance to shadow, beautiful images would be captured under sunny day or cloudy day
[Auto] according to the information received via scene recognition, adjust and enhance the image
New: enhance the red color under sunrise / sunset
Enhance the saturation of landscape photo
- Soften portrait photo

Using "spot area AF" to AF on very small area
- The size is 1/2 of "standard area AF"
- Suitable for shooting macro, focusing on a very small object

In the photo:

blue square: "standard area AF"
red square: "spot area AF"

- Illuminated button for shooting under dark situation (finally!)
- Raw L, M or S for your selection
- Enhanced Multiple exposure flexibilities
- 1:1 photo size (new)
- SD and XQD dual card slots (new)
Using wireless controlled flash, you could achieve effective lighting control outdoor
Support wireless transmitter WT-7.

Read more: https://nikonrumors.com/2017/08/11/translation-of-the-leaked-nikon-d850-slides.aspx/#ixzz4pSrFpKLc

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NikonRumors.com posted some more information on the D850 from leaked advertising photos. See that site for more details.

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Re: Updated D850 specs
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2017, 19:26:07 »
When can I get one?

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Re: Updated D850 specs
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2017, 19:34:32 »
$4000 or more, including vertical grip if you want full specifications,  9fps

When my F5 did 8 fps I stepped up the CL (continuous low) frame rate to 5 fps and squeezed off single frames. I did the same with my D2H and D300s. If I owned a D850 and an appropriate lens for birds in flight then I'd want 5 fps and 9 fps so I would need the grip.

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Re: Updated D850 specs
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2017, 19:44:53 »
Illuminated button for shooting under dark situation (finally!)

Can I assume the letters and symbols won't rub off the buttons after 20,000 frames like my D800??  :)  ;)  :D

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I'm not sure how many frames I've shot but I think I've rolled over the odometer twice now. Why only frame numbers to 9,999??? Why not at the least 99,999 or more reasonably 999,999?

Is there a good reason?

[Total pictures = 21553 and the AF-ON and + or Magnifying Glass are gone.]
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Re: Updated D850 specs
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2017, 20:38:43 »
Impressive camera!
Most things were predictable, but still a few surprises like (not in order of importance):
- Raw L, M or S
- 0.75x OVF magnification
- Focus stacking (require software)
- Natural Light AWB
- Spot area AF
- Electronic shutter improvements
And probably a few more

EN-EL18a + MB-D18, necessary for the 9fps, is an extra expense

How much in Europe?
€4000 + €650 (including EN-EL18a)
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Re: Updated D850 specs
« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2017, 22:52:01 »
Well, if knock-off grips cost 30€, hard to see how Nikon could price theirs that high. If I recall correctly in 2012 the MB-D12 was about 400-450€, from which it has steadily gone down.

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Re: Updated D850 specs
« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2017, 23:03:28 »
Well, if knock-off grips cost 30€, hard to see how Nikon could price theirs that high. If I recall correctly in 2012 the MB-D12 was about 400-450€, from which it has steadily gone down.

Battery + battery cap is over €200.
MB-D17 (D500) is €429
I guess I'm not too far off. :)
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Re: Updated D850 specs
« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2017, 23:25:52 »
Ah, you were referring to D5 battery, didn't notice that.

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Re: Updated D850 specs
« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2017, 01:08:20 »
focus stacking  :o :o :o

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Re: Updated D850 specs
« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2017, 01:24:51 »
Can I assume the letters and symbols won't rub off the buttons after 20,000 frames like my D800??  :)  ;)  :D

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I'm not sure how many frames I've shot but I think I've rolled over the odometer twice now. Why only frame numbers to 9,999??? Why not at the least 99,999 or more reasonably 999,999?

Is there a good reason?

[Total pictures = 21553 and the AF-ON and + or Magnifying Glass are gone.]

My D800 has 92,386 frames shot on it (upload an image to https://www.camerashuttercount.com/ to find your cameras total shutter count), my thumb is on the AF-ON button almost as much as my index finger is on the shutter button. The lettering has not rubbed off, though it is a tad bit faded. I wonder if there is something specific to your hands that is making the lettering come off?

I believe the 9,999 frame number limit is due to old file naming standards still in use.