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David H. Hartman

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Re: ViewNX-i problems
« Reply #60 on: March 31, 2017, 13:35:11 »
And today I bumped on a work-around that works. The OSX Photoloader is setup to accept my cards and transfer the files to a directory. But I don't. Instead I now start Nikon Transfer 2 ( the old one) and it reads the entire SD-card of my D90 without a stutter. Transfers the whole lot, creates a folder, erases the files, ejects the card and starts ViewNX-I in the newly created folder. The only thing I do is complete the folder name with some description behind the date. And close the OSX Photoloader. I on't onderstaand what happens, but somehow the OSX Photoloader creates a situation where Nikon Transfer2 can do it's job.

Might this mean the fault is with the Apple OS rather than Nikon Transfer 2?

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Re: ViewNX-i problems
« Reply #61 on: June 10, 2017, 17:38:10 »
I updated to ViewNX-i 1.2.7 and it seems much improved. I have processed through thousands of images without crashing or weird behavior. Previously when I would delete an image it would move the cursor away from the thumbnail strip so I had to reactivate it by clicking on an image before it would let me move from one image to the next after deleting an image.

So far looks very good!

I have not yet tried the new version of Capture NX-D.

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Re: ViewNX-i problems
« Reply #62 on: June 10, 2017, 19:14:31 »
I updated to ViewNX-i 1.2.7 and it seems much improved. I have processed through thousands of images without crashing or weird behavior. Previously when I would delete an image it would move the cursor away from the thumbnail strip so I had to reactivate it by clicking on an image before it would let me move from one image to the next after deleting an image.

So far looks very good!

I have not yet tried the new version of Capture NX-D.

I updated to v1.2.7 also, but, only to be current. I don't use any of the Nikon software because I just don't like it. I keep it on hand, just in case I suppose, but I haven't opened any of it in years. It's really too bad that Nikon can make great hardware and not match that with great software.

I'm not making any claims about which editing program is the best, there's more than one capable post processing program, with new ones coming out regularly. Much of it comes down to personal choice. There are some folks that put considerable effort into finding alternatives to PS and LR for no more reason than they're pissed off at how Adobe has moved to subscriptions for it's software. Personally, I like PS/LR, which doesn't mean that I wouldn't like other programs. What it does mean, in my case, is that PS/LR work for me, and I don't care to learn every other program that hits the market just so that I can replace one that's serving me well and that  I already like. I do like, and use, plugins that expand my use of PS/LR.

Then again, there are some people that want to try out every new program that they find, and I see nothing wrong with that, it's their time, trouble, and expense involved, not mine. Maybe it's a personality thing, for example there are certain foods that I like prepared in a certain manner, and I do not care to experiment with alternate preparations, just to be different. To some folks, I'd be missing out on a new experience, and to me I'd be avoiding an adulteration of  cherished recipe.

The last group are the folks that want everyone to use what they use, certain that everyone will like what they use more than any other program. We hear a "Oh, you must try blah blah". But see the above paragraph, not everyone agrees on everything, not that these folks get that. Many people think that there's something wrong with people that don't like goat cheese, and I'm one that doesn't. They also think that there's something wrong with people that like Limburger, and I'm one that does. Different strokes for different folks.
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Re: ViewNX-i problems
« Reply #63 on: June 10, 2017, 21:34:18 »
Nikon software is the only one that shows active focus point and AF fine tune setting used. This is information I must be able to see. I use ViewNX-i for browsing, not for modifications to the images.

It shows images properly resampled for display; e.g. Adobe Bridge shows quite often additional aliasing that is not present in the original. ViewNx-i also follow camera settings for the appearance of NEF images which I also consider a must. Finally it is a lot faster for browsing than lightroom on my computer(s).

Anyway looks like most of the bugs that annoyed me are now fixed and I am a bit less stressed about Nikon software. Hopefully this signifies they understand the importance of correctly functioning software and put more resources into software development in the future.

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Re: ViewNX-i problems
« Reply #64 on: June 10, 2017, 22:44:12 »
Nikon software is the only one that shows active focus point and AF fine tune setting used. This is information I must be able to see. I use ViewNX-i for browsing, not for modifications to the images.

It shows images properly resampled for display; e.g. Adobe Bridge shows quite often additional aliasing that is not present in the original. ViewNx-i also follow camera settings for the appearance of NEF images which I also consider a must. Finally it is a lot faster for browsing than lightroom on my computer(s).

Anyway looks like most of the bugs that annoyed me are now fixed and I am a bit less stressed about Nikon software. Hopefully this signifies they understand the importance of correctly functioning software and put more resources into software development in the future.

Since it has been so long that I've looked at it, I opened up the new version. I saw the focus point info that you mentioned in the few old images that I was looking at. However, nowadays I import into LR from the card, and convert to dng at that time. That makes those images show up as Tiffs in ViewNX-1.2.7, so no focus info available like it is for NEFs. I guess I can go back to having NEFs and dng copies, but I'd have to consider that because of the extra space needed for the expanded file sizes to cover both versions.

Moreover, the NEF files that I looked at were from my D200, and that predates focus fine tune, so nothing for me to see there, and my D7200 pics were converted to dng on import, so nothing there either.

Anyway, when I closed View out I got an error message saying that it had quit unexpectedly. Of course that wasn't the case, so I opened and closed a few times more, and got the same error message each time. So, there's still at least one fly in the ointment with v1.2.7. This might be an issue only with MacOS, I dunno. I did not use it enough to find any more issues.
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Re: ViewNX-i problems
« Reply #65 on: June 10, 2017, 23:44:47 »
Well, I'm told that Adobe Illustrator exhibits the same behavior under MacOS 10.12.5, that is it crashes on the quit command. that from a fellow Mac & Nikon user. I hope that I've not besmirched Nikon with my comments suspecting that they were to blame for that behavior with ViewNX-i v1.2.7.

A "Mea Culpa" may well be in order here.  :-[
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Re: ViewNX-i problems
« Reply #66 on: September 08, 2017, 13:52:04 »
I like to use Nikon browsers for going through the images for several reasons. One is that they follow the picture controls set in the camera. Another is that it is reasonably fast to browse and check focus quickly, and you get to see hardware details such as the active focus point, AF fine tune setting in use, etc. You cannot get all of these details in e.g. Adobe software.

However, for the past couple of years Nikon ViewNX-i has been available, it has been quite unreliable. It crashes from time to time, especially it seems to happen when accessing older directories which have seen use by Nikon ViewNX2. And sometimes when it crashes once, it will always crash when restarting the software.

I discovered a way to temporarily solve the problem of this program being in a seemingly permanent crash loop. I deleted the c:\users\username\AppData\Local\Nikon\ViewNX-i directory. After this the software seems to work normally again. For a time at least.

I always knew Nikon software had glitches, but the frequency of them occurring since ViewNX2 and Capture NX2 were discontinued, is alarming. I have to wonder if they have any competent software engineers working for them and whether they have any people whose primary task is to test and make sure that the software works correctly on any platform that is supported.

I sent Nikon a message about this, though I am not sure if it will do any good. Everyone seems to just use 3rd party software. But I want those device dependent data to be displayed when I'm browsing images.

I have Mac Pro with SSD. Now is ViewNX-i crashing every time I open it. This is the second time this happens. The first time I had to formate the whole SSD, load in everything and then the programme worked again. Do I have to do this now again? I don´t know if I have the energy for it. I have latest Mac OS. I have tried to uninstall it and load down the latest version from Nikon, but it didn´t help. I have also sent Nikon messages about this, to Nikon Nordic, but they couldn´t help me. And Nikon Transfer isn´t working either. It stopped working when MacOS Sierra came.

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Re: ViewNX-i problems
« Reply #67 on: September 09, 2017, 09:19:10 »
There are a number of programs that crash when generating thumbnails. I found a couple of PDF files that crashed IrfanView 64 bit. I ran them through Adobe Acrobat Pro and it reported masks that were removed is reprocessing the PDF(s). The newly precessed PDF(s) no longer crashed IrfanView 64. It happens probably more often than people know. Now if a program crashes while creating thumbnails an irregular file is what I suspect first.

Dave who is suspicious of your thumbnails. :)
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Re: ViewNX-i problems
« Reply #68 on: September 15, 2017, 16:39:39 »
Just a single faulty file in a folder can be the cause of thumb-nail browsers crashing.

I beta-test software so have sometimes seen that happen.

If the files are RAW files, simply trashing all recent XMP metadata sidecars that are attached to those images is all that it takes to fix the problem.

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Re: ViewNX-i problems
« Reply #69 on: September 15, 2017, 21:33:46 »
Just a single faulty file in a folder can be the cause of thumb-nail browsers crashing.

I beta-test software so have sometimes seen that happen.

If the files are RAW files, simply trashing all recent XMP metadata sidecars that are attached to those images is all that it takes to fix the problem.

Have the developers forgotten or are they too lazy to implement error trapping? Besides crashing I've seen layer registration problems in Photoshop after straightening an image. I now crop, I have to trap the error after straitening images in CNX2, CNX-D and Photoshop. I also crop after using the Canvas Size tool in Photoshop. It's a solid habit now and saves me much grief. 

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