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Erik Lund

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Re: If you simply must have a Noct-Nikkor 58/1.2....
« Reply #30 on: March 28, 2016, 20:48:39 »
Just kidding, here it is a f/8, still it retains the image nicely

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Re: If you simply must have a Noct-Nikkor 58/1.2....
« Reply #31 on: March 28, 2016, 20:49:46 »
Difference in focus,,, You don't see it,,, OMG  ::)

Are we looking at the big white blobs dead center,,,?

Well what, looking at the Gerbera of course

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Re: If you simply must have a Noct-Nikkor 58/1.2....
« Reply #32 on: March 28, 2016, 20:50:19 »
For reference; Carlsberg Beer-can shot of a girl we will meet soon in Scotland,,,

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Re: If you simply must have a Noct-Nikkor 58/1.2....
« Reply #33 on: March 28, 2016, 20:56:17 »
Well what, looking at the Gerbera of course

Never mind the flower Fons ;) this is about where the real difference is - And the difference is transitions of color and that is created by the blur circles among other,,,

These are to give you an idea of the Noct-Rendering

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Re: If you simply must have a Noct-Nikkor 58/1.2....
« Reply #34 on: March 28, 2016, 21:30:02 »
I feel Andrea did a good job of expressing the character or style of certain specialized lenses like the Noct Nikkor. I group the Noct along several other lenses that I feel have character-to-spare, such as the Noct, the El Nikkor APO 105mm, the AM-ED 120mm, the Printing Nikkor 150mm, etc.

If I want to copy or have a forensic like photo I would use a flat lens like the Micro-Nikkor 60mm or the Coastal Optic 60mm f.4, etc. If I want or a field-guide nature photo, I would use a macro lens like the CV-125 APO-Lanthar and so on.

However, if a want a style or to capture an impression, I would use one of the above lenses. Here is a photo I took about an hour ago or so with the El Nikkor APO 105 that has character. It may be easier to see it than describe it. This with the Nikon D810 and Zerene Stacker.

The greatest problem with the Noct Nikkor is chromatic aberration, which has to be removed.
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Re: If you simply must have a Noct-Nikkor 58/1.2....
« Reply #35 on: March 29, 2016, 07:25:50 »
Erik, I did not mean that I can not see differences between the Noct and the 1.2, I just don't think that particular comparison was good at displaying the differences.  Your follow-up images, along with the others I have seen, certainly proves the Noct to render oof regions much more smoothly than the 1.2, along with enhanced clarity within the region in focus.  The comparison you gave didn't provjde an oof background that the 1.2 would draw more nervously, as it tends to do compared to the Noct, so it leveled the playing field.

The images in replies 26 and 27 have lovely aesthetics by the way. ☺
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Re: If you simply must have a Noct-Nikkor 58/1.2....
« Reply #36 on: March 29, 2016, 08:26:23 »
We are not in disagreement Tristin.

The image comparison show some of the underlying reason for the difference in rendering between the two lenses.
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Re: If you simply must have a Noct-Nikkor 58/1.2....
« Reply #37 on: October 31, 2016, 06:09:40 »
A couple more contributions:

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Re: If you simply must have a Noct-Nikkor 58/1.2....
« Reply #38 on: October 31, 2016, 08:18:10 »
Just see the sheer size difference in blur circles, and that is from the same distance.

I don't see that blur size as particularly important. What I notice is the bokeh quality of the window frame in the Noct photo. It's a nice enhancement in smooth and creaminess compared to the AIS

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Re: If you simply must have a Noct-Nikkor 58/1.2....
« Reply #39 on: October 31, 2016, 08:24:00 »
It is the blur circle size that is helping in making that possible.
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Re: If you simply must have a Noct-Nikkor 58/1.2....
« Reply #40 on: October 31, 2016, 10:17:02 »
With bokeh you can get quality (smooth) or quantity (big blur circle). With the Noct you can get both!

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Re: If you simply must have a Noct-Nikkor 58/1.2....
« Reply #41 on: October 31, 2016, 10:22:17 »
Correct
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Re: If you simply must have a Noct-Nikkor 58/1.2....
« Reply #42 on: December 14, 2018, 15:40:06 »
Oh, Erik, I was so young and hansom!
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Re: If you simply must have a Noct-Nikkor 58/1.2....
« Reply #43 on: December 14, 2018, 15:50:44 »
Quick reminder that there is a nice copy for sale here.
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Re: If you simply must have a Noct-Nikkor 58/1.2....
« Reply #44 on: December 14, 2018, 17:07:14 »
Quick reminder that there is a nice copy for sale here.

I think Nikon has frozen the Noct market by pre-announcing the new version. Collectors probably already have one, and users are expecting great things from the 0.95. If the old Noct is better in some ways than the new one, the old Noct will start to sell again, but no one knows right now.