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Gear Talk => Camera Talk => Topic started by: armando_m on March 23, 2019, 15:48:53
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I had been lusting over the Fuji system for quite a while,
An opportunity presented itself in amazon mexico to purchase the body with convincing conditions so I ordered it
an inconvenience is that it was offered as a body only, the lenses are sold at quite a premium in the local market,
so I'll be ordering them from other geographies.
The new toy arrived last night!
I had already received a metabones adapter for my F mount lenses and a new SD card, an extra battery should arrive shortly
Upgraded to the latest firmware
Found the option to shoot without lenses
Setup the focus peaking
Took a couple of shots in the backyard
Detail shot with the V1 :)
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Always fun to have a new toy. I can personally recommend the Fujifilm 23/1.4 and 14/2.8 lenses if your interests include the 35mm- and 21mm-equivalent 24x36 angles of view.
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I had been lusting over the Fuji system for quite a while,
An opportunity presented itself in amazon mexico to purchase the body with convincing conditions so I ordered it
an inconvenience is that it was offered as a body only, the lenses are sold at quite a premium in the local market,
so I'll be ordering them from other geographies.
The new toy arrived last night!
I had already received a metabones adapter for my F mount lenses and a new SD card, an extra battery should arrive shortly
Upgraded to the latest firmware
Found the option to shoot without lenses
Setup the focus peaking
Took a couple of shots in the backyard
Detail shot with the V1 :)
Yes sympathize with your choice, unfortunately this forum is mute beyond consensus.
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Congratulations on your new toy!
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A nice 'Panda' version of the T3. Hopefully it'll bring back some great images.
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Thanks for the comments, choosing lenses is always an interesting phase of buying a new camera, first I want to see how I get along with the camera and workflow before any larger expense
Here is a shot of my eternal test model
shot with the 105 f2.5 ais lens
I find very useful the ability to have a small view of the focus point to the side of the full image , vs having the whole screen replaced by a zoom of the focus area, that is through the view finder
Square crop and a bit of brightness added
Using captureone fuji express to develop the raws, so far there is no advantage vs using the jpgs, guess I'll have to shoot something with more dynamic range
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Kudos Armando.
I wanted smaller- succumbed and have the X-T30 on order.
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Hi Armando
I am sure you will like it. And the Nikoor 105mm still shines on Fuji, don’t worry!
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Congratulations with the new Fuji Armando !
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Thanks for the comments, choosing lenses is always an interesting phase of buying a new camera, first I want to see how I get along with the camera and workflow before any larger expense
Here is a shot of my eternal test model
shot with the 105 f2.5 ais lens
I find very useful the ability to have a small view of the focus point to the side of the full image , vs having the whole screen replaced by a zoom of the focus area, that is through the view finder
Square crop and a bit of brightness added
Using captureone fuji express to develop the raws, so far there is no advantage vs using the jpgs, guess I'll have to shoot something with more dynamic range
Lovely.
Pricewise,
you can get 3 fujis for 1 z7 or 2 for 1 z6.
Nikon is too expensive.
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Fons, and the same is probably true for the lenses as well.
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Seems the 105 will make any camera shine :)
3/24 before sunrise
With the nikon 70-300 wide open @300mm
Converted to 16bit tif with captureone plus a bit of fun in ps lab mode
Focusing in the fuji is so much easier than the liveview in the d800 or the v1, now with the moon I would use AF on the nikons but still got a decent result doing manual focus
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Well done tweaking out so many color nuances on the moon surface, Armando.
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Thanks Øivind
Went for a walk and found an orchestra, shot from within the crowd
50mm f1.8 series e lens
somewhat heavy crop
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Good start, Armando!
Am looking forward to seeing which XF lens you will get at first!
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Armando, "I had been lusting over the Fuji system for quite a while..." , same here. Fuji is finally making an effort in India. When I bought into Olympus m43 they were non-existent and did not answer my emails or phone calls >:( , So you have not started working with the X-trans RAWs?
Very nice images, keep having fun :) .
Tom
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Thanks Akira,
We'll see :)
Tom,
The images I have shared have been developed from Raw files, I'm using CaptureOne Express for Fuji, it's a free version, and I'm very pleased with the results, the files are very easy to work with, and I never imagined the beautiful and sharp images I'm getting with my adapted nikon lenses, the auto white balance is very very good, and the film simulation profiles are available in captureone.
I'm struggling a bit with the camera setup, doing manual everything is easy, but takes planning if you need to shoot fast, shooting in aperture mode with auto iso is a bit confusing, altough all my images were exposed correctly in the screen they appeared over exposed, guess I'll need to read the manual :)
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Thanks Armando, my son is halfway through his first year of a 3 year Multi-media course and wants to specialize in filmmaking and advertising. His school is predominately using Fuji and Capture One. He is still using his EM1 but also uses my Sony a7rii and a7iii and also the D500 for Sport and Birds. He has never shot the Df . I really lust after the Z6 but the XT3 seems pretty good for Vids and his school gets fantastic discounts on Fuji bodies and, more importantly, lenses. The price of a Fuji buy-in works out less expensive than the Z6 and lenses. I sure do not need the Z6 ;) . That famous Indian expression "what to do" applies ;) . Both the Z6 and a7iii are pretty good for Vids.
I look forward to more of your images and experiences :)
Tom
Edit: I never recommended a career in photography, just the opposite !
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Tom: in the end all the stuff you can afford and you lust for will make it the house of your photography crazy family some day. I guess the first bigger price cuts on the Z6 or a nice Black Friday deal will kick you over the doorstep... says advocatus diaboli ...
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Nice!
I was looking to get into the Fuji system myself last year as my first mirrorless but found the whole range confusing as to what sits where and what is due for 'imminent replacement' as it has a problem / issue that is to be removed or improved on the next iteration or which models miss out on features that are important - and that is before I got into the sensors and workflow changes.
It was a shame as I really liked the look of some of the cameras and images they took. I ended up spending so long reading and trying to absorb all things Fuji (nearly 2 months) that I suffered information overload fatigue and ended up just getting a Nikon Z6 and whether getting that instead of one of the many Fuji cameras was a wise move or not I can't say.
I suppose that is one of the problems with staying with one make - all the others seem confusing!
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As long as one is able to make the desired photographs, the gear as such is of little consequence. The seemingly endless "swapping" between brands on the other hand makes a lot of money -- for shops and makers.
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Now that is the truth :) . The photographer who owns, and runs, my son's school told him to stick with the camera he is most comfortable with for the basics and learn how to use the Sony a7rii before dropping the EM1. When he needs cameras for specific reasons he will then be ready to make a move. He has been shooting Nikon DSLR's since he was 8.
Frank, afford and want.... lol . I will wait and see how my son progresses and which direction he takes before the "want' gets to me. For most charity work my wife is now using her Samsung Galaxy S10plus more than her 'proper' cameras ;) , No real printing and easy/fast to share and no pay.
Tom
Edit: Nikon India are now offering a Weebill Lab gimbal Creator's Kit for half price with Z6/7 and the trade in for my D300. So I could justify by giving my son the Gimbal....save so much that I go broke...lol
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Last night 30 min exposure from the roof of the house
x-t3 + 70-300 zoom
The tilting screen and decent live view makes pointing the camera and focusing really easy, also the lighter camera helped keep the tracker pointed to north star without constant readjustments every time I made adjustments to where the camera is pointing, I was expecting some battery trouble but it was not the case, I used about 40% in the whole session, about 150 images, I used the camera intervalometer
Converted the raf files to dng so they can be ingested by deepskystacker, other than that the processing is pretty much the same as with the D800 in regards of detail and amount of noise, taming the reds was more difficult than I remember but I'm surrounded by street lights, that recently have been upgraded to led so it is difficult to compare
I really would like to try the fuji from a darker area
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Wow! And that with a 70-300 zoom ? From your roof ? I'm flabbergasted :o
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Last night 30 min exposure from the roof of the house
x-t3 + 70-300 zoom
The tilting screen and decent live view makes pointing the camera and focusing really easy, also the lighter camera helped keep the tracker pointed to north star without constant readjustments every time I made adjustments to where the camera is pointing, I was expecting some battery trouble but it was not the case, I used about 40% in the whole session, about 150 images, I used the camera intervalometer
Converted the raf files to dng so they can be ingested by deepskystacker, other than that the processing is pretty much the same as with the D800 in regards of detail and amount of noise, taming the reds was more difficult than I remember but I'm surrounded by street lights, that recently have been upgraded to led so it is difficult to compare
I really would like to try the fuji from a darker area
Amazing result, Armando! The detail of the nebulae is very well rendered.
If I remember correctly, Fuji digital bodies have traditionally been preferred by astronomical photographers because they can render the red color of the H-alpha spectrum well. I wonder if you noticed that?
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Lovely image, Armando.
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Wonderful work Armando!
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Wow Armando, great colours. Never seen here .
Tom
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I am desperately trying to resist the irrational desire to get the X-T3, and you are not helping. Not thank you!
Of course, the image is wonderful. Maybe a bit flat on the nebula tones?
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Impressive sky Armando
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Thanks for all the comments
Jaques, this is a crop, the image is probably 3° of field of view
Akira, I noticed the red channel had more info than the green and blue, but shooting from the city is hard to discern why
Olivier, so sorry, I'm having fun with a very capable camera
Tom, the colors are certainly not visible with your eyes, it takes quite a lot of images and processing to get to this result which is still so-so as I'm the middle of to much light pollution
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Tried it at the studio, got a few funny looks from the other photographers, after a while they started asking questions
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The camera seems very capable in your hands, Armando. How do you find the ergonomics?
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Tried it at the studio, got a few funny looks from the other photographers, after a while they started asking questions
:D :D :D
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Ian,
Operating the rear dial while looking through the viewfinder is difficult as I'm a left eye shooter so I reconfigured the front dial to adjust time and the rear dial to adjust aperture, which I'll be able to adjust on the lens once I get something else than the 27mm.
Also when using the viewfinder the touch screen better left off, or I end up doing odd things when my nose touches the screen
Still it does not feel like it belongs in my hand like the feeling I get when I grab the D800
I feel the camera to small when lifted to my face, but people smile back when they see me with the x-t3, a reaction I do not get when using the D800.
I have already filled the my menu with settings I want to adjust quickly without scrolling through list after list, I did the same thing on the d800
There is more to like than to dislike, so far the camera helps me get the picture, rather than me fighting the camera to get a picture, like I feel when using the V1.
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Kudos Armando - large strides already made by you with your new X-T3.
Do you see the X-T3 as a replacement for your V1 as a more capable walk around system or as a replacement for your venerable D800? Just curious.
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I'm not sure yet, so far I have not picked up the V1 or the D800 since getting the x-t3
I'm limited for what I can do having only the 27mm lens, but the adapted nikon lenses are fun
here is portrait using the 105 f2.5, jpg sooc, resized in cnx2
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Thank you for your thoughts, Armando. The Fuji X system is quite appealing. My main concern is that the camera is so small that it is fiddly to operate. I will certainly handle one myself in a shop. However, your extended experiences are of great interest!
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The X-T3 certainly handles differently from the D800. I find I hold it a bit more with the fingers and a bit less with the whole hand. It is more like the Df than the D800. Personally I like it a lot, but handling is something very personal.
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Beautiful portraits, Armando, regardless of the cameras you use!
By the way, folks,
if you feel the Fuji X cameras (basically any models) a bit too small, you may want to try to screw a soft release button into the release button of the camera. This way, you can stretch your index finger and don't need to try to push the release button with your finger tip, which makes the holding of the camera noticeably more comfortable.
I've been using soft release buttons virtually all film cameras that I've had, Nikon F3, FM2, Leica M, Fuji GW680, etc. whose shutter buttons accommodated generic cable releases.
I use one on my X-E3 and never feel in need of removing it. During the film days, you had to remove the button when you use a cable release, which would make you lose the tiny accessory. On the other hand, now that we can control the cameras wirelessly using smartphones, you can leave the button permanently on your camera.
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I have large hands hand had an issue with the X-t1 initially. This was solved by adding a "large" grip (not a battery grip) that mostly increases the front bump and makes the handling easier. Not yet perfect, especially with moderately heavy lenses like the Nikkor 105mm + Lens Turbo reducer, but it is manageable.
This is actually what refrains me from getting the even smaller X-T30, probably too small for my hands.
Nice portrait, Armando!
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My travels took me close to my favourite camera shop and I asked to see an X-T3. With my right little finger resting along the baseplate, the camera was much more pleasant to hold than I had feared. Anthony's description made perfect sense.
The salesman then added the grip. It is basically an Arca Swiss plate with a piece attached that makes the handgrip on the front of the camera deeper. It was a noticeable improvement. I could get along with an X-T3 and the grip.
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My Fuji XE-1, and later the XE-2s, absolutely required an add-on grip to make the camera handling meet my own modern standards. It would be difficult for me to go back to the old-fashioned flat front camera, be it Leica M or Nikon Df, without adding a right-handed grip.
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I also use the genuine grip with the Arca-Swiss dovetail at the bottom for my X-E3. Combined with the soft release button, the camera fits nicely in my hand.
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Congrats Armando. Obviously a Fuji in very capable hands :)
Like others I also felt the need for a better grip on my X-E1 - especially when using the Fuji 55-200 zoom or old heavy Minolta tele lenses. I got a SUNWAYFOTO Pfl-xe1 which is an L-bracket with a grip. It can be disassembled in 3 parts so that one can use it without the grip etc. It have worked quite well.
I agree with Akira regarding the use of a soft release button - unfortunately I've already lost 3 because they loosen so currently I don't have any.
I also use the genuine grip with the Arca-Swiss dovetail at the bottom for my X-E3. Combined with the soft release button, the camera fits nicely in my hand.
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got a grip for the x-t3,mcoplus brand, fits like a glove to the bottom of the camera