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Travelogues => Future NG Events - and Location Reveries => Topic started by: David Paterson on October 13, 2018, 15:12:09
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NOV. 10th
We are in the process of booking SHIEL LODGE for a week beginning 11th May 2019. The lodge is a traditional Scottish sporting lodge with comprehensive accommodation and facilities. It sleeps up to 16 people so several places are still available. The cost will range from £100 per person (for the whole week) if 15 members participate, to £150 per person if only ten join in. At the moment we are nine.
http://www.glenshielestate.com/shiel_accommodation.htm (http://www.glenshielestate.com/shiel_accommodation.htm)
The lodge is in a wonderful part of the Scottish Highlands with the Isle of Skye nearby, as well as other beautiful areas such as Applecross and Torrridon, as well as easy day-trips to the islands of Eigg and Rhum.
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OCT 20TH - SEE BELOW
I casually dropped a comment in a different thread about a second "Scotland Week", and was a little surprised at the enthusiastic response. Certainly the last one, in May 2016, was a great success, and in perfect weather. I still regard it as one of the highlights of my career as a photographer (now stretching towards 50 years).
So here's the question again - would you participate in a Scotland 2019 Week, probably in May again or possibly September/October? My advice would be to go for May. The week's activities would be centred around the accommodation we choose, and I will try to find 2-3 possibilities in the southern and south-west Highlands.
If you would like to get on the list, please just reply to this thread, and indicate your preference for spring or autumn. Last time we had 19 participants including me; any number between 12 and 20 would be good.
NEW INFO - 20/10/218
I have looked at a lot of accommodations, some quite suitable for our needs, some not. But they are nearly all very heavily booked, and prices have risen dramatically since 2016. If this event is going to happen we will need to book accommodation very soon. Also, looking at what is available, I find myself being pushed more and more in the direction of the Loch Tay Lodges we used the last time. This is not ldeal - some have already been here in 2016 and might prefer a different venue - but two of the lodges are available for large parts of May (the third lodge is fully booked), their prices have gone up but are still reasonable, and if we took two lodges we would have bed-space for at least 12 people (the list still stands at 10), and there is the possibility to rent another, smaller lodge if the list grows beyond 12.
I would urge anyone else who is interested to please get their names on the list by pm-ing or emailing me - with their preference for which week in May, and their feelings about the event being centred on Loch Tay and Killin again.
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I enjoyed the blazing sun and high temperatures ....so spring again for me please!
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Isle of Skye in May? Portree is wonderful, but also further down at the foot of the Cullin Mountains would be gorgeous.
In 2019 I supervise my building project so I can only finalize my plans on short notice. If my construction needs me, I will not be there
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I could do either alternative, but if one must be given priority, it's spring.
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Wouldn't mind revisiting Skye, the last time I was there we had horizontal rain for days so ended up on the East coast to get out of the stormy weather.
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Just a small word of caution - I love Skye very much and have been there approx. 30 times - mass tourism has hit Skye and its attractions very hard and the island is now extremely busy all year round, and especially in the peak months of May - Sept. There is constant competition for everything from hotel accommodation to campsites, parking spaces at viewpoints and even supplies from supermarkets. Skye does not have the infrastructure to support the numbers who are going there, and the situation - where there is not even one bed available on the island - is quite common. Tourist information-points tell people who do not already have a firm booking, to go back to the mainland.
Of course we would be booked long in advance but my point is that the whole island is very, even unpleasantly, busy. Mikes and I experienced a little of this in October 2016 when he had to phone a couple of dozen places to get us some accommodation.When we visited The Quiraing - a wonderful mountain/rock/pinnacles feature - there were 46 (I counted) vehicles parked in the unofficial parking area and along the verges of the road. Ten years ago there would have been one or two. Or none.
I had a long phonecall with an old friend - a native of Skye - whose advice was don't come, or if you must, book the accommodation NOW. We are not ready for that, just yet.
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I am interested in a Spring meet up in Scotland.
There must be many beautiful places which are not over crowded with tourists. The big name places attract the people, but many almost unknown places are just as beautiful. The situation is similar in Italy.
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Duly noted, scratch my vote for Skye then as I usually prefer to avoid high tourist places.
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I would be interested and my preference would be spring, however it is going to be difficult for me.
I cannot go for a whole week, a few days at most and even that is difficult, since I have a daughter in school and I am already going to Scotland with another group in late winter.
Late in May there is one week of school holidays and this time is already taken by a family vacation, so if there is a clash this will take precedence.
I have been searching for accommodation for largish groups for the other trip I have, and I have seen some really nice properties, that are affordable and in spectacular places in the NW Highlands.
I am going to put some links in here to get the conversation going...
The first one is the one I am going to on the first week of March:
Couldoran House https://www.couldoranestate.co.uk/ (https://www.couldoranestate.co.uk/), which is in the Applecross / Torridon area, near the famous Bealach na Ba and located in some fantastic walking area.
Otherwise, Assynt is another fabulous place, with mountains rising like dinosaurs from the swamps.
Here we tried Inchnadamph Lodge http://www.inch-lodge.co.uk/index.html (http://www.inch-lodge.co.uk/index.html), but it was already booked for the period we were interested in.
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May for me. North-western Scotland? I spent a few days there a couple of years ago (after spending a few days in Skye with David), and the scenery was wonderful, and it was not blighted by tourism. A few days weren't enough.
BTW - I endorse David's comments about tourists on Skye. Not only was suitable accommodation hard to find, but the interesting photography sites were as busy as ants nests.
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I have to pass. My son is marrying at the end of April in Surabaya (Indonesia).
Afterwards we’ll probably heading to Kalimantan. ;D
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I have been searching for accommodation for largish groups for the other trip I have, and I have seen some really nice properties, that are affordable and in spectacular places in the NW Highlands.
I am going to put some links in here to get the conversation going...
period we were interested in.
Thanks, Simone - that's a very helpful post. I have also started a search for suitable lodgings. It's a shame if you can't make it, but putting work & family commitments ahead of a jolly with the lads from NG - I don't know what the world is coming to. 8) 8) 8)
I have to pass. My son is marrying at the end of April in Surabaya (Indonesia).
Afterwards we’ll probably heading to Kalimantan. ;D
Chris - a marriage in Surabaya and a holiday in Kalimantan - that's no excuse - see above. But have a great time. :'(
So at the end of the first day, the list reads (first come, first served) -
Bez
Frank
Birna
Dave (myself)
Anthony
Jan Anne
Simato
Mike
Bent and Gunver
Robert (Seapy)
Frank and Simato are provisonal, but at this early stage we should treat everyone as provisional.
I also suggest that we should put a hold on the numbers at 15 or 16 people, until we have decided on our accommodation. If we find a really big place we can re-open the list
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As we see our plans at the moment then the second half of May will be fine for us, Gunver and Bent :)
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ouch on Skye. It was next to empty and remote when I was there in 1998...
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Sadly Skye seems to have become a major tourist destination. I was there in August, admittedly 'high season', the place was heaving, Estonia seemed to be one nationality which was frequently recognised from the car and bike number plates. Glen Brittle with it's Fairy Pools seems a strong magnet. Cars were parked for over a kilometre along the road either side of the path to the pools. Both car parks were full.
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The path up to the pools.
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And some bathing... My son slapping his face to deter the midges, doesn't work, just inflicts more pain!!! Dog looking bewildered as son slaps face. LOL
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It is possible to exclude the crowds.
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May I suggest Glen Etive and Glen Orchy which are rich in waterfalls with spectacular backdrops.
A Glen Etive waterfall, it took us a whole day to explore the Etive waterfalls, they just kept coming, one after another.
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One of many Glen Orchy Waterfalls.
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Also there are two small botanic gardens within reach of Killin, Pitlochry 'Exploreres' garden, where Scots plant hunting explorers are celebrated in a small but lovely botanic garden. Also another private botanic garden with public access, between Loch Tay and Pitlochry, Cluny House Garden, near Aberfeldy, which is rich in wildlife and a wonderful place to explore, boasting one of the tallest trees in Scotland. It is a haven for red squirrels and presents a challenge for sharp eyed photographers as they jump from tree to tree.
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Too many tourists here on the Giant causeway, Northern Ireland last June
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Midges, :o where i come from originally.
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Speaking of dates, I may have some chance to get clearance for a few days if we opt for early May.
Monday 6th May is a bank holiday here, if we start the get together from Saturday 4, I could perhaps convince my wife to let me go for the long weekend, maybe a day or two more.
I could leave home Friday night and sleep somewhere en route (Perth if we go to Assynt or Torridon/Applecross).
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From Seapy -
"Sadly Skye seems to have become a major tourist destination. I was there in August, admittedly 'high season', the place was heaving, Estonia seemed to be one nationality which was frequently recognised from the car and bike number plates. Glen Brittle with it's Fairy Pools seems a strong magnet. Cars were parked for over a kilometre along the road either side of the path to the pools. Both car parks were full."
Thanks for that, Robert - nothing like getting visual confirmation. Are you not joining NG at play?
(I wonder, do you mean Glen Orchy? Not G. Ogle?)
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Doh! Yes, did that from memory thank you for pointing that out David... Need new memory! Corrected.
After last times debacle on my part I'm reluctant to commit, I very much would like to but maybe not for full term. Too soon to plan, has been in back of my mind for some time.
I would very much like to explore lesser known parts of Rannoch, perhaps to the North East? It's so huge I feel intimidated exploring and access is difficult without hiking long distances which I am no longer able to do.
Rather than here...
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Robert: super shots and great story telling in #14
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Speaking of dates, I may have some chance to get clearance for a few days if we opt for early May.
Monday 6th May is a bank holiday here, if we start the get together from Saturday 4, I could perhaps convince my wife to let me go for the long weekend, maybe a day or two more.
I could leave home Friday night and sleep somewhere en route (Perth if we go to Assynt or Torridon/Applecross).
My wife's birthday is on 5/5 .. I did miss it last year. End of May for me .. if .. or I will simply visit Dave alone
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As indicated in the other thread, i'd be interested. But, May is typically not convenient for me, as 15/5 is my son's birthday so anything from 12/5 until (incl.) 19/5 is not possible for me. However, if we would be able to plan it around that (i've read Frank's comment above), then perhaps for me. I'd still need to get the travel request past the CFO 8) ;D
But, silly question, earlier months are not possible? For example March, especially with the tourist season stories in mind.
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The question of dates is a tricky one. We don't as yet have a full list of participants, we don't know where we will be staying, and we don't know which weeks the accommodation will be available.
I will try to find a shortlist of likely accommodations, asap. A vote can be held (committed members) to choose which we will stay in. Members can then put forward their preferred week in May, and their 2nd favourite week - this will let us decide on the dates.
Or choose the timing first then look for lodgings available on our chosen dates.
Hans - in April there will be temporary peak in tourism - Easter, and school holidays; and it's usually a wet month. March is still winter; the days are short and the modern winter here is generally raw, cold and wet. There could be snow - that's ok with me, but the chances of bad weather are just too high.
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Hans - in April there will be temporary peak in tourism - Easter, and school holidays; and it's usually a wet month. March is still winter; the days are short and the modern winter here is generally raw, cold and wet. There could be snow - that's ok with me, but the chances of bad weather are just too high.
OK, scratch that. It isn't all too sure i can join anyway, Easter, school holidays and as mentioned my son's birthday are all in the way of being flexible enough to make this work from my side. Too bad, but that's life ;)
You guys just stick to the plan as mentioned earlier in this thread (May time frame), i'll enjoy the pictures (as always) ;D ;D
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Looking into how to get there Norwegian has direct flight in the timeframe from Copenhagen, but what is a reliable budget car hire company at Edinburgh airport?
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All the car rental companies at Edinburgh Airport should be fine, provided that their cars are on the airport and not at some location away from the airport. You definitely need to check this.
I use Carrentals for car hire as the prices are usually a lot better than booking direct. I have used this company for rental in many countries https://www.carrentals.co.uk/?aff=9999&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIjufn29qN3gIVCrTtCh0smAVmEAAYAiAAEgKC6_D_BwE
However, it is always worth checking with the rental company as well.
You need to read the terms and conditions very carefully because they do vary, particularly in terms of unlimited/limited mileage and fuel policy (eg full tank to full tank versus they sell you a full tank and you return it as near empty as possible. The former is much better.).
I have an annual insurance for excess liability over the standard CDW. It works out a lot cheaper than paying for cover from the hire company, especially if you rent several times a year. Some of the companies which Carrentals covers include insurance for excess liability. Note that the car hire company will try to persuade you to take their excess cover even if you have insurance, and they will block an amount on your card for security.