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Title: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Frank Fremerey on June 12, 2015, 14:27:53
The Organ Thread. Feel free to post your Organ shots here:

Here is the "Original" 30 Megabyte Shot: http://zentralkraft.com/edit_op2000_retouche_nl.jpg (http://zentralkraft.com/edit_op2000_retouche_nl.jpg)

Technicalities: 3 strong lamps with shades, Sinar P2 with Schneider Apo Digitar 120mm/f=5.6 (edition 2012 with 15cm image circle), Nikon D600 as a back, stitched from 4.


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Post by: Bjørn Rørslett on June 13, 2015, 16:42:52
Have you printed this big? Probably could decorate an entire wall on its own.

I like the strong feeling of symmetry and the tactility of the metalic surfaces of the organ.
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Post by: Lance B on June 13, 2015, 16:56:42
Very nice indeed! I also love the symmetry and the lovely colours of the stained glass window.
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on June 13, 2015, 19:21:14
The customer received a print in 50x75 as proof. I love to shoot the D600 as Digiback.
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on July 22, 2015, 11:39:06
Haarlem Holland St. Bavo

The natural perspective is blocked by Chandeliers. Lots of them.

So you have to take her from the right side.

These and two detail shots for the time being

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Post by: Airy on July 22, 2015, 12:13:43
Wien, Franziskanerkirche. Rieger Orgelbau (Glatter-Götz). Df + CV 40/2.
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Post by: Airy on July 22, 2015, 12:18:46
Paris, Ste Elisabeth du temple. Suret 1854.
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on July 22, 2015, 13:30:57
I have so many. Will need to pull them from the Archives.

In the Opening Post it is a Klais

St. Bavo is a Müller
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Post by: elsa hoffmann on July 22, 2015, 14:16:51
omg I really can hear the organ playing. dont ask me the tune - but its the first one that immediately comes to mind when looking at the images - so beautiful.
And here I was expecting human organs - till I saw who posted the thread  :P
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Post by: Airy on July 22, 2015, 14:25:39
Right Elsa. I (we) have a fetish it seems.
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on July 22, 2015, 15:06:46
If you dare to set foot into a church in CapeTown please contribute to this thread. Organs are a very interesting
Photographic subject.
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Post by: Mike G on July 22, 2015, 16:04:20
St Martin in the Fields, Trafalgar Square!

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Post by: Gary on July 22, 2015, 17:18:57
Nicely captured Frank. I, like Elsa, can hear the music echoing across the empty chambers. (Organ music is best heard in an empty church.)
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Post by: smusesuse on July 22, 2015, 17:28:12
Wow, I am neither a church goer nor do I know anything about organs, but this thread is amazing. My favourite shot so far is from the Franziskanerkirche. Impressive!
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on July 22, 2015, 22:05:38
Thank you Mike Susane and Gary. You do not have to believe in anything to value the art of building and playing the organ.

To participate here go into the next church. Take the best shot you can get of the organ.
Collect as much info as you can get about who built it when and you got a caption too.
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Post by: elsa hoffmann on July 23, 2015, 06:49:17
Frank - I have no issue entering churches - and as much as I enjoy organ music - I don't have a particular interest in photographing them. I also don't think I will do as good a job as you - since that is what you have an interest in photographing. I love the dramatic music from church organs, the acoustics are generally excellent - what's not to enjoy. Sadly church organs are dying out in South Africa. Another thing dying out is  church bells.
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Post by: bendle on July 23, 2015, 07:47:29
Beautiful photos, love hearing good organ music. The only contribution i could make would be a photo of a mouth organ and i don't think you would appreciate that.
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Post by: Eric Borgström on July 23, 2015, 10:48:04
Leipzig organs in their ambience. 1. Thomaskirche, 2. Nikolaikirche.
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Post by: Lars Hansen on July 23, 2015, 11:02:46
The organ from the local church - Sorø Abbey church.

Parts of it dates back to the beginning of the 15'th century. Parts of the facade was made in 1628. It has also had a rococo period facade. It was restored in 1942/1944 by Marcussen and Son and most of the current facade dates from this restoration. It is considered to be one of the most significant organs from the organ reform movement (Orgelbewegung) in Denmark. 

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Post by: Eric Borgström on July 23, 2015, 12:09:31
Hans,
Our local organ in Täby, Sweden is not so impressive. We are happy though that the wall paintings survived the protestant reformation.
Eric
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on July 23, 2015, 12:41:45
Thank you Eric and Lars for your contributions. Today I took another two.

Will download them soon. Daugther calling.

blessed holidays
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Post by: Eric Borgström on July 23, 2015, 19:03:19
Perhaps taking a "wrong" thread direction, but the organ is there!
Organ with hurried organist. Odden Kirke, Denmark. /Eric
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on July 23, 2015, 21:22:29
The shoes make the picture. I love to see more of the Instrument.
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Post by: Eric Borgström on July 24, 2015, 09:14:14
Frank!
Arriving at Odden Kirke a car hastily pulled up. The driver hurried to the church with a pair of shoes in his hand. When we entered by the main side entrance there prominently was a pair of everyday shoes in the isle. The little organ is placed to the side in the main isle of the flower decorated ”road church”. The organist, the shoe man, played ”Fuga II” by Bach. I am afraid the organ is not the pride of the church. In the new picture you can see a bit more of it though. The pride of the church is the brightly colored exterior. But that is for another thread. This is a digression, sorry.
The magnificent organ next is of Peter and Paul in Kraków, Poland, an organ surely seen many times by Karol Wojtyła before he progressed to the Vatican.  /Eric
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Akira on July 24, 2015, 09:54:47
I haven't posted any comment here, but am enjoying posts of you guys!  Thanks, Frank, for starting the thread!  Hope to see more!
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Post by: Airy on July 24, 2015, 11:21:49
Gaetano Callido, S. Stae, Venezia. D700 + 28-300 VR
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on July 24, 2015, 12:12:11
Wow, Eric. The Krakov Organ is "highly decorated"..... I prefer the functional parts to be decorational to decorational surroundings.

hope this Thread will continue as long as nikongear exsists!
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Post by: Akira on July 24, 2015, 12:16:46
I have a question to the posters: do you have any info on the tunings of the organs?  I mean, to which pitch the "A" is tuned.  If they are preserved for more than 100 years or true replica of the original ones build centuries ago, the tuning should not necessarily A=440.
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Frank Fremerey on July 24, 2015, 12:37:21
The tuner of an organ is called the intonator.
 Two intonaters make a completly different instrument sound.

Second. The 440 Hz is only the A on a modern PIANO.

The natural A is the 377 Hz on a piano.

I do not know anything about the tuning of organs apart from  the fact that intonation makes a huge difference.
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on July 24, 2015, 12:38:26
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pipe_organ_tuning
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Post by: Airy on July 24, 2015, 12:39:28
Indeed, tuning and temperament vary considerably. Whether A is a good reference is disputable, by the way. For reference, historically encountered "A" may lie typically one tone lower (around 390Hz, French baroque...) to about half a tone higher (around 460Hz, Northern German baroque) at ambient temperature level. Nowadays most organs are tuned around 440 Hz at 15°C to 20°C. Organ tone is very sensitive to pitch. Big blunders have been made in the past with Cavaillé-Coll organs by moving them from 435 to 440... this was done in Orléans cathedral (hoping to facilitate the play with other instruments) and had to be reversed. Reason is (much simplified) that tone height has something to do with pipe length, but changing the pipe length while leaving, necessarily, other dimensions unaffected subtly but definitely changes the tone. This is even more the case with reed pipes (trumpets etc.).
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Eric Borgström on July 24, 2015, 13:21:13
Another organ perhaps?
This is from the main cathedral in Stockholm but not the main in Sweden. Storkyrkan. /Eric
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Post by: Akira on July 24, 2015, 13:23:00
Frank and Airy, thanks for the link and explanation.

Yes, I know that the A=440 is so-called modern pitch, and the standard pitch varies from country to country, area to area.

Of course, the tuning should not necessarily the well-tempered one either.

The "tone" should be strongly related to the size and natural acoustic of the cathedral, and changing the pitch may not be a good idea.
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Post by: Airy on July 24, 2015, 14:05:02
Well, changing the pitch necessarily leads to alterations of the pipework. Organ metal, unlike strings, is not elastic. So pitch changes are major interventions; like surgery, they leaves scars. Consequently, organists had better get used to hearing a G# when they play an A (those gifted with absolute hearing may endure a torture).

Even tuning, if not carried out properly, can damage pipes.
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Akira on July 24, 2015, 14:44:09
Also, altering the pipework means that you have to work on thousands of pipes, if the organ is large, right?  That's a fainting job!

And yes, that's one reson that perfect pitch is not always a good thing for a musician.
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Post by: Airy on July 24, 2015, 16:55:42
I did a full tuning once (it takes two guys by the way, one at the keyboards and one at the pipes) on a relatively small organ, about 1000 pipes. You get ears ringing and greasy dirt from candle soot under your fingernails. And it is even more fun when done at night.
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Post by: Airy on July 24, 2015, 22:08:49
Kortrijk (Belgium). Oly OM-D + 12mm if I remember correctly
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Post by: Akira on July 25, 2015, 00:46:28
Love this antique organ.  Nice to see the bellows as well.
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on July 25, 2015, 09:22:02
Airy. Where are the pipes?
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Post by: Akira on July 25, 2015, 09:41:11
Airy. Where are the pipes?
Right behind the double door above the keyboards?
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Post by: Airy on July 25, 2015, 09:51:44
The pipes are inside, as usual. The front pipes, as seen from the chapel :

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Post by: Akira on July 25, 2015, 09:55:45
Oh, this is majestic!
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Post by: Airy on July 25, 2015, 12:28:12
Small and very nice to play and listen to. Perfect for chamber music. This one is usually played by a certain Mr. Kuijken, who lives nearby.
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Post by: Akira on July 25, 2015, 12:58:34
Small and very nice to play and listen to. Perfect for chamber music. This one is usually played by a certain Mr. Kuijken, who lives nearby.

Great!  But I only know the violinist, the gambist and the fluitist Kuijkens.  Is he a son of any?
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on July 25, 2015, 13:56:55
I love the woodwork. I know many cases with organ pipes open
on the side of the table even with small incarnations.

today in the Franz Hals Museum:
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Airy on July 25, 2015, 14:00:59
Akira: No, but it is one of the three, as I've been told. I do not remember which one (we did not meet - I played that organ "en passant").
Frank : indeed I like having the keyboard opposite the front pipes, or to the side. One gets less direct and more reverberated sound, hence a better "listening experience" and less ear-ringing.
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on July 26, 2015, 18:31:28
Today in de Nieuwe Kerk Haarlem. Built in 1645 to 1649 the organ was built by Van Covelens/Hess 1523/1791
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Akira on July 27, 2015, 00:27:05
Airy, thanks for the further info on the Kuijkens.  There's no wonder any one (or even all) of them can play some keyboards.

Frank, this latest one is very neat and appears to be beautifuly maintained.
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on July 27, 2015, 06:36:25
Yes Akira and I love it how the Fuji renders the golden letters
in the extreme highlights: "IEU LIED". Nikon would just render white here.
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Post by: Akira on July 27, 2015, 08:27:51
Frank, thanks for the details.

Is this SOOC jpeg?  The exif says the image was processed in View NX...
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Post by: Eric Borgström on July 27, 2015, 08:41:12
Frauenkirche, Dresden.
The organ nearly disappears in all the restored baroque splendor.
/Eric


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Post by: Frank Fremerey on July 27, 2015, 10:20:33
No. This is a panorama handheld baked from 4 single shots with Kolor Autopano Giga
Then edited in Photoshop just for color space
then resized in View NX2 for Web
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on July 27, 2015, 10:45:38
Eric. This is really impressive. I am sure the sound is as good as
the looks
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Post by: Akira on July 27, 2015, 12:52:37
No. This is a panorama handheld baked from 4 single shots with Kolor Autopano Giga
Then edited in Photoshop just for color space
then resized in View NX2 for Web

Thanks for the details.  I wonder why you use View NX2 for the resize, though.  It the final image quality better than export for the web from Photoshop?

Eric, this is yet another gorgeous church and organ!
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Post by: Airy on July 27, 2015, 18:23:38
Somewhere in Wien (Vienna). A tribute to the fantastic work against the light done by the Zeiss 35/2, here at f/4. The sun was blazing through the clear windows. The blue tint of the front pipes is reflected skylight from other windows, not flare. No other lens gave me such results. The 35/2 is a must-have for organ shooters.
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Post by: Eric Borgström on July 28, 2015, 10:18:02
Impressive organ setting, impressive lens rendering! /Eric
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on July 28, 2015, 12:19:31
Wow Airy. The Vienna specimen is a great shot of great artwork. I am sure this cask is just opened.
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Post by: John Geerts on July 28, 2015, 21:00:17
A most impressive thread here. Especially the last one is a 'work of art'.  I must look around here in Tilburg, from what I've heard and read, there are some unique organs, in this (former) most Catholic city of the Netherlands  ;)
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on July 28, 2015, 22:50:38
John. You are more than welcome
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Post by: Gary on July 29, 2015, 16:13:40
Man, I'd like to contribute to this thread, but American organs are all small and feeble compared to these behemoth, European pipes. (I feel humble and inadequate.)   
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on July 29, 2015, 16:30:13
Nono. There are huge organs in the US. Esp in comunity centers and opera houses

IIRC Baltimore has one of the biggest organs in the world

see http://klais.de
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Post by: Gary on July 29, 2015, 16:35:20
Thank you for the link. There is an organ world out there I never knew existed. (Unfortunately, Baltimore is 3,000 miles east of me.) I'll do some digging around here.
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on July 29, 2015, 16:37:36
The largest pipe organ ever built, based on number of pipes, is the Boardwalk Hall Auditorium Organ in Atlantic City, New Jersey, built by the Midmer-Losh Organ Company between 1929 and 1932, officially containing seven manuals, 449 ranks, 337 registers, and 33,114 pipes and weighing approximately 150 tons.[2]

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Post by: Frank Fremerey on July 29, 2015, 16:39:34
The Wanamaker Grand Court Organ atWanamaker's department store (now operated by Macy's) in Philadelphia is the largest functional organ, the second largest organ based on number of pipes, and the largest based on number of ranks and physical mass weight.[4] It is the largest operational musical instrument in the world, with six manuals, 463 ranks, 399 registers, with 28,677 pipes and weighs 287 tons.

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Post by: Frank Fremerey on July 29, 2015, 16:43:42
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_Memorial_Church
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on July 29, 2015, 16:45:48
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Churches_in_California
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Post by: Eric Borgström on July 29, 2015, 19:03:57
An other European one?
This is the organ of the Cathedral of St. Jakob, Innsbruck, Österreich.
/Eric
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on July 29, 2015, 19:22:47
St Jacob ... very coool
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Post by: Mike G on August 06, 2015, 15:04:23
A Baroque Organ from a Jesuit church in Lucern! Sadly i don't know why it is draped with netting, maybe a pigeon deterrent.

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Post by: Airy on August 06, 2015, 16:03:43
A beautiful organ, tonally too !

The net is either a daytime pigeon deterrent, or a night time bat deterrent, or both !
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Post by: Mike G on August 06, 2015, 16:07:20
Airy I hear what you say, its just a shame as it obscures a clear view of the instrument.  :-\
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on August 06, 2015, 20:35:31
The Lucern instrument is amazing. Sad it need such kind of photographer deterrent
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on August 07, 2015, 07:21:36
Cologne, Dom
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Post by: Akira on August 07, 2015, 07:51:12
Coll machine!
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on August 08, 2015, 17:42:33
St. Aposteln. One of the HUGE churches in Cologne.

Sorry, I only found German Information on the Instrument:

"Die jüngste Orgel der Basilika stammt aus dem Jahr 1996 (vollendet 2006 durch die drei Chamadenregister) und ist zugleich die größte. Im Westhaus untergebracht hat sie 80 Register, verteilt auf 4 Manuale (C-a''') und Pedal (C-f'). Gebaut wurde sie von der Firma Fischer & Krämer in Endingen.

Die Spieltraktur ist mechanisch, alle Normalkoppeln sind elektrisch. Die Koppel II/I kann auch mechanisch bedient werden. Schwelltritte gibt es für das Brustwerk und das Schwellwerk (hier auch für die Rückwand). Die Orgel hat 1536 Setzerkombinationen, die auf einer Diskette abgelegt und archiviert werden können."
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Post by: Airy on August 11, 2015, 23:52:30
Lille, St Maurice, the modest choir organ. Df + 20/2.8 AIS. No HDR processing, but shadows were considerably lifted.
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on August 12, 2015, 04:17:59
I like the processing and the sense of space here
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Post by: Gary on August 12, 2015, 06:19:58
Hey Airy Magnien, that is really nice.
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Post by: Airy on August 12, 2015, 06:26:15
 "get closer" - a piece of advice that is difficult to apply, in general...
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Post by: Fons Baerken on August 19, 2015, 15:40:43
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/665/20518120488_4641893915_b.jpg)

Cunault church
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Post by: Airy on August 20, 2015, 10:09:12
... by Robert Boisseau. Organ porn, you see the mechanics (tracker action).
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Post by: Bruno Schroder on August 20, 2015, 11:39:18
The Minster in York

From http://www.yorkminster.org/worship-and-choir/choir-and-music/organ-amp-organists.html
The main organ as it is seen today was completed in 1903 by the distinguished firm of J.W. Walker & Son incorporating some ranks from the earlier Hill instrument. In 1917, Harrison and Harrison partly renewed the Great organ chorus and added the famous Tuba Mirabilis stop facing into the Nave enhancing the bigger effects of the instrument. The organ was altered in 1960 and again in 1993 and is highly regarded for the quality of tone it produces in the acoustic of the Minster.
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on August 20, 2015, 13:00:16
Bruno. Wow. They engraved each and every pipe for decoration? Or is that paint?
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Post by: Airy on August 20, 2015, 14:17:09
Painted
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Post by: Bruno Schroder on August 20, 2015, 14:26:58
Most pipes but not all of them: the 32ft pipes have been left bare:) http://www.npor.org.uk/NPORView.html?RI=D04217
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Post by: Airy on August 20, 2015, 19:55:46
Closer view of painted pipes : Christ CHruch (Lille, France), Albert E. Pease, late XIXth century :
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on August 23, 2015, 14:08:54
Thank you Airy!
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on August 23, 2015, 14:11:28
A first rendering of a huge HDR Panorama (with Photoshop CC and HDR Pro 2 plugin), today at mass in the St Johan Baptist & Petrus in Bonn (2015 newly cabled and intonated by Klais):
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on August 23, 2015, 14:34:08
Much better second rendering with Photomatix & Photoshop CC (original is 75 Megapixels)

[right click "view image" to see full posting size]
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Post by: Airy on August 23, 2015, 21:52:20
Small and very nice to play and listen to. Perfect for chamber music. This one is usually played by a certain Mr. Kuijken, who lives nearby.

Great!  But I only know the violinist, the gambist and the fluitist Kuijkens.  Is he a son of any?

got it confirmed today - Sigiswald Kuijken plays the organ there
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Post by: Akira on August 24, 2015, 00:04:34
Thanks, Airy!
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Post by: Gary on August 24, 2015, 19:21:43
I love this thread.
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Post by: John Geerts on August 25, 2015, 21:17:40
In the local library there is still a copy left of a book about the 'Tilburg' organs. It's a complicated book full of detailed information which doesn't ring a bell to me.

Apparently there are 46 Organs in Tilburg, mostly in churches and convents. The churches are closed except for the service times so an appointment has to be made. Detailled information and photo's will follow in due course ;) 
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on August 26, 2015, 06:51:54
John. It is a pity in Holland. Spontaneous visits to church for either prayer or photography is not possible.

You have to ring out the custodian, or in the bigger churches pay an entrance fee of 2.5 to 4.0 Euros.

This is really bad marketing.
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Post by: Gary on August 26, 2015, 16:35:55
John. It is a pity in Holland. Spontaneous visits to church for either prayer or photography is not possible.

You have to ring out the custodian, or in the bigger churches pay an entrance fee of 2.5 to 4.0 Euros.

This is really bad marketing.

I agree, bad marketing and in particular bad P.R. I can only speak for the Catholic Churches here, but they are all open everyday.
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Post by: Airy on August 26, 2015, 17:05:19
That's not a religion issue. Catholic churches in France are mostly closed all day except sometimes on Sundays when they got a priest and stage a mass. An besides, there is no money for maintaining organs. In rural areas, it is not seldom that there are 1 priest for 20 churches, and non-clergy volunteering for keeping churches open and having an eye on whatever is valuable inside are hard to find.
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on August 26, 2015, 20:55:25
Airy: This is the consequence of hundreds of years of bad marketing
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Post by: John Geerts on August 27, 2015, 00:58:37
The second Organ in the church of Saint Denis (St Dionysius Kerk) in Tilburg. Like in Paris the two oldest churches are devoted to Saint Denis. The Organ was built in 1980 by Loek van Nes for the 'kerk van de Goddelijke Voorzienigheid" in Bergen op Zoom. After the closure of that church in 2005 it was transported and restyled in Tilburg. It's in use by the 'Brabantse Conservatorium'.   It took 18 years to build this Organ.   

(link to the builder  (in Dutch): http://www.bndestem.nl/regio/bergen-op-zoom/loek-van-nes-stopt-ermee-na-45-jaar-1.728334 (http://www.bndestem.nl/regio/bergen-op-zoom/loek-van-nes-stopt-ermee-na-45-jaar-1.728334)

Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Frank Fremerey on August 27, 2015, 08:09:46
Thank you John!

ALL: how is it in your country?

In Gernany most Catholic Churches are open for prayer and art
historical studies. Many people who are not religious at all love
to visit these witnesses of history.

Protestant churches are often closed except for special interest
or as Wiedereintrittsstelle.

So how is it where you live?
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Post by: John Geerts on August 27, 2015, 10:18:20
It's a bit the same as Airy describes and has nothing to do with the church and religion but with increased vandalism.

A bit of background is necessary.  Tilburg is in the province  Noord Brabant and like, the rest of the south of the Netherlands Roman Catholic. However, during the Calvinistic occupation of Holland (1650-1790) the Catholic religion was forbidden and the inhabitants had to go to secret churches about 10 kilometers southwards, over the current border with Belgium. There were two of them. After the liberation by the French and the installment of the Kingdom of the Netherlands in 1812, religion freedom was given back, and the specific church (from 1460) came back to people in 1820. At that time a new church was build as the old one, was firstly completely stripped by the Calvinist, and secondly not maintained over the centuries.   

So basically we see a huge growth in population and poverty after 1820, due to the textile-industrie and the industrialization later. That also included the building of lot of churches, abbeys and convents and Tilburg was considered as the most Catholic city  of the Netherlands but with a lot of diversity and focused on the wellbeing of the population through welfare and education. The decline started in the sixties. Many churches were closed.  As well as the decline of the textile-industry, there is a correlation. 

Due to increased vandalism and robbery of churches that started in the seventies, which also has to do with a decline a church-visiting,  a number of measurements had to be made.

There were basically two options. You can remove all the art in the church and put it in a museum. (a bit out of the question in a church which is used daily)   For the churches in the center, with a vast number of volunteer, they are open a regular times.  Or you have to open when volunteers are there, at service time of course and at special occasions. There are during the year a number of 'Open Monument Days'.

This is the church with the Organ, the tower was built in 1460, but restructured in Baroque-style by architect C.F. van Hoof in 1890-1892.

(http://tilburgers.nl/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/05-12-2015-Oude-Markt-Binnenstad-Winkelen-Heikese-Kerk-Anvers.jpg)
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Airy on September 10, 2015, 00:50:02
Geneva, St Peter. Metzler, 4 manuals, 1965. Df + Voigtländer 40/2. Shot Sept. 9 on a biz trip (never without my Df)
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: armando_m on September 14, 2015, 23:39:24
Winchester Cathedral organ
(https://armando-m.smugmug.com/Travel/England/i-JBrcD3F/0/O/_DSC5218.jpg)
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Frank Fremerey on September 15, 2015, 07:19:10
Armando: Thank you. Amazing how the brass is illuminated in the dark church.
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: John Geerts on September 15, 2015, 08:33:46
This the main organ in the church of Saint Denis (Heikse kerk, or Sint Dionysiuskerk), Tilburg
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Frank Fremerey on September 15, 2015, 09:30:39
John: Difficult lighting. Needs a tripod and lamps switched off and 30 Seconds exposure....
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: John Geerts on September 15, 2015, 09:57:56
John: Difficult lighting. Needs a tripod and lamps switched off and 30 Seconds exposure....
Yes Frank.  Actually it would be preferred if the priest or sexton would lower that hanging candle.  Or go up and use a super-wide ;)
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Frank Fremerey on September 15, 2015, 11:02:12
Yes Frank.  Actually it would be preferred if the priest or sexton would lower that hanging candle.  Or go up and use a super-wide ;)

The St. Bavis in Haarlem is so stuffed with chandeliers that only a sideways perspective or an illegal ascend to the pulpit can help with a clear shot of the Müller Organ (see one of my first posts on page 1 of this thread...)

...organs are always a challenge and most of them are worth the effort!
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Viv on September 15, 2015, 15:36:40
My contribution to this thread.
The organ in the beautiful Karlskirche, Vienna.
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Frank Fremerey on September 15, 2015, 16:55:46
Viv: Reminds me of something I intend to do. VISIT VIENNA!!!!

Thank you for your contribution. And please think of this thread should you ever walk by an open church and can spare a minute or two....
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Viv on September 15, 2015, 17:15:57
Thank you, Frank. Will do!
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Airy on September 15, 2015, 23:05:25
Great shot. I once visited the Karlskirche but could not get a correct one.
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Eric Borgström on September 18, 2015, 11:12:36
Just went on a photo tour of Iceland. Mostly landscape work but a visit to Reykjavik´s "Hallgrimskirkja" and it´s organ was a must.
/Eric

Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Frank Fremerey on September 18, 2015, 11:45:04
This looks like a very powerful instrument and quite a modern one too. Thank you.
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Airy on September 19, 2015, 14:21:43
Another Klais organ. I recommend you "cathedral music" composed and played by Gunnar Idenstam on that very organ. Virtuoso, well-crafted, and entertaining at the same time.
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Airy on September 19, 2015, 15:09:18
Another view
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Frank Fremerey on September 19, 2015, 16:16:35
The Iceland Organis a Klais. Very cool. If you come here I make sure Philipp Klais will give us a tour of his workshop

sometimes it is difficult to fit into his schedule because he is all over the planet and has 4 kids too.
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Akira on September 19, 2015, 16:21:56
Another Klais organ. I recommend you "cathedral music" composed and played by Gunnar Idenstam on that very organ. Virtuoso, well-crafted, and entertaining at the same time.

Just found this performance on YouTube (not in the very church):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjaAxi6AymQ

He is amazing!
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Frank Fremerey on September 19, 2015, 16:24:15
http://klais.de/m.php?sid=256&page=15


optically this other instrument is more impressive.

same city same maker
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Lars Hansen on September 19, 2015, 16:56:33
Just some close-up organ porn...

Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: frankv on September 19, 2015, 17:01:00
Walking around town today I snapped this image of a beautiful instrument.

It was built new in 1863 to Tromsø Domkirke. It has recently been restored to it's original form. An expanded modul from the 1950's was removed, and it was returned to french baroque style. It is not big, but it sounds really beautiful. The iriginal builder was Claus Jensen, wich also built important organs in Oslo and Bergen in the same period. As far as I know, this is the only original Claus Jensen organ that is still in full use.

D7000 at iso 2200
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Airy on September 19, 2015, 18:02:39
Just some close-up organ porn...

Looks like the Angel had a smoke. And that's not trumpet in his hand...
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Eric Borgström on September 19, 2015, 18:35:24
Frank and Airy!

Thanks for sharing insight. Philipp Klais, Klais organ and Gunnar Idenstam with links widens my knowledge and musical enjoyment.
/Eric
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Airy on September 19, 2015, 19:48:46
You should try and meet this guy Gunnar. His record "Bach pa Svenska", baroque violin and harmonium (! yes, reed organ), is pure bliss.
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Frank Fremerey on September 19, 2015, 20:45:59
Just some close-up organ porn...

This angel is sculptured so perfectly post-ironic, the maker could about qualify to meet woith us every sunday at mass (see that thread)
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Lars Hansen on September 20, 2015, 12:23:33
Looks like the Angel had a smoke. And that's not trumpet in his hand...

The one who envisioned and carved this figure probably had a smoke or two himself..

This angel is sculptured so perfectly post-ironic, the maker could about qualify to meet woith us every sunday at mass (see that thread)
My understanding is that the angel dates back to the 1620's - a 1620's wood carver would be a nice supplement to the crowd of medieval dressed people in your thread about sunday mass. You could imitate the angel .. if your hair and body is up to it?  ;D 
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Frank Fremerey on September 20, 2015, 15:54:27
The angel himself looks drunk and decadent no sign of making him look nicer than necessary. A figure from the
magic flute. Monostatos. Of moral questionability. This in a church signals a huge sense of irony and humor.

great you captured it. Thank you.
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Airy on September 20, 2015, 22:44:22
Wien, S. Maria Rotunda ( = Dominikanerkirche). Df + 105/2.5
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Airy on September 20, 2015, 23:18:10
Paris, St Pierre de Chaillot. Organ by Birouste. Df + Voigtländer 40/2 at f/2, 6400 ISO
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Frank Fremerey on September 20, 2015, 23:41:11
St Marien, Big Klais Organ, today

1) nice edit
2) crazy edit
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Frank Fremerey on September 20, 2015, 23:48:17
And the small Klais, Choir Organ, there too. A very impressive instrument, bass plays deep into once guts and you feel it like the horn of an a huge steam ship in the harbour. You never believe this sound comes from such a small instrument. very impressive also the intonation...
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Jakov Minić on September 26, 2015, 17:37:22
Dear Frank,

Today the NikonGear GetTogether visited the cathedral in Freiburg.
As soon as I entered inside I was thinking of you and I was searching for the organ.
I did my best to make a sharp image. However, I am not sharply talented as can be seen.
Nevertheless, I hope you will like them.

Yours, Jakov
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Bjørn Rørslett on September 26, 2015, 17:41:30
I had to shoot the organ blindfolded. Not easy.
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: HCS on September 26, 2015, 17:43:17
Well, i can't match that. But ... i'll post anyway.
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Frank Fremerey on September 26, 2015, 19:09:03
Jakov. You master of the unsharp universe. Supercool shot.
Thank you. We do some serious cooking without cameras today
...
I have to correct my self. There was am Olympus EM1 and a set of very best optics for that system.

But

Ro.Ro is better archiving these shots than giving me the chance of editing and publishing them....

...one day may be....
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Akira on September 26, 2015, 19:50:52
Jakov, the second one is superb!  Love the clear double-image of rosetta.  But, again, "show us the best one first" method applies here!  :D
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Airy on September 26, 2015, 21:14:59
St Germain en Laye (West of Paris), St Germain church. Fresh from today. The organ case is not so nice : the chocolate paint, the visible enlargement spoiling the proportions. But the interest is elsewhere : the organ is where Marie-Claire Alain (1926-2013), and before here her father Albert Alain (1880-1971) and brother Jehan Alain (1911-1940), were "at home". All were not just organists, but also outstanding musicians. Jehan Alain's organ compositions, though not very numerous (they fit on 2 CDs), form no doubt the most important (and enjoyable) part of the French organ repertoire of the XXth century, alongside Olivier Messiaen's works.
Interestingly, Jehan Alain was also "titulaire" organist at the Synagogue de la Victoire, in Paris, just before 2nd world war, and also composed for the jewish ceremonies. He perished in action (as a motorcycling scout) near Saumur in 1940.

Df + 105/2.5, f/4, 11400 ISO, 1/125s handheld. Could not get a better angle of view, a wedding ceremony was about to begin.
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: John Geerts on September 26, 2015, 23:30:10
Two of the three organs in the Munster / Freiburg
Title: Nidaros
Post by: Björn Carlén on October 03, 2015, 00:08:43
One of the two big organs in the Nidaros Dome, Trondheim, Norway. Built in 1741 by the German Joachim Wagner.
Hand held D600 and 16-35/4 VR.
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Frank Fremerey on October 03, 2015, 00:24:25
Björn. This is wonderful magical reminds me of my mother's funeral a short while ago.


Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Björn Carlén on October 03, 2015, 00:29:16
Björn. This is wonderful magical reminds me of my mother's funeral a short while ago.
I'm so sorry, Frank!
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Airy on October 15, 2015, 11:24:04
In Italy, traditional (pre-1850) organs are often small, placed in the altar area (close to choirs), and sometimes dissimulated. Instruments generally have refined, luminous tonal qualities, and are not set for loudness (this is linked with low pressures and narrow scales).

Attached is an example - the small organ of San Martino ai Monti, Roma. Df, 50/1.2 AI at some intermediate aperture. Lens profile from latest Lightroom release was used for distortion correction.
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Fons Baerken on October 15, 2015, 12:46:13
Ah love the sound of baroque organs
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Airy on October 15, 2015, 12:59:38
Another example from Italy - here a relatively rare case of an organ situated on the west chancery (over the entrance portal). Roma, Santa Francesca Romana.
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Airy on October 15, 2015, 13:03:57
Another case - when the church has a short nave or a circular shape, the organ is more likely to be seen on the west gallery, which itself is more likely to exist. Roma, S. Eustachio (near the Pantheon). Same gear as above, handheld as usual. Some PP to lift the shadows (contrast was enormous).
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: John Geerts on October 15, 2015, 13:16:33
Ah, beautiful, Airy.
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Frank Fremerey on October 15, 2015, 13:18:33
Fons: I love the overtone rich breathing sound of some older organs.

Many of the newer or newly intonated models have such a clean fat dominant sound. I feel it is not right in my ears.


Airy. Impressive new additions. Have to get back to Rome some day
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Björn Carlén on October 16, 2015, 15:04:35
You all seem to know so much about organs – I find that sensational and highly fascinating!
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Airy on October 16, 2015, 16:27:03
I've be playing (and tuning, and repairing) these things from 1972 to 2014, that's why.
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Frank Fremerey on October 16, 2015, 20:55:01
I consider Airy as an expert. I am a mere fanboy....
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Airy on October 17, 2015, 20:07:44
Now another side of the monsters. Douai, St Pierre, the organ console
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Akira on October 18, 2015, 03:55:29
Wow, gorgeous console!
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Eb on October 18, 2015, 08:08:22
A new world organ , pipes detail, at Christ Church Cathedral, Fredericton, N.B.  I'm told it is a Casavant Frères, Quebec built, 1957, the replacement of a 1912 instrument destroyed in a fire.

(http://www.pbase.com/emueller/image/109335089/original.jpg)




(http://www.pbase.com/emueller/image/109335195/original.jpg)


Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Airy on October 18, 2015, 10:03:00
and nice colors too. The front pipes are made of tin, despite the copper-like color : such welding quality would be impossible to achieve with copper. I wonder how they did it (some kind od varnish ? probably renewed recently ?)
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Frank Fremerey on October 18, 2015, 14:42:53
Very cool subject and color scape. Take.
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: elsa hoffmann on October 25, 2015, 07:21:34
my first organ photo - not very impressive though, but with a huge history
taken in "de Groote Kerk" Cape Town - corner stone laid in December 1700
The current organ has 5 917pipes, four "manuale" and pedals and a console with 102 registers. The longest pipe is 9,5m long with a circumference of 254mm and the shortest is 6mm long with a circumference of  2,5mm. Pipes were made of copper, tin and wood.
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Frank Fremerey on October 25, 2015, 08:11:19
A very perfect shot. Textbook. And a very appealing subject. I like the wave formed by the pipes! And the wood.
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Airy on October 25, 2015, 08:20:55
Thanks for joining the club. Do you know the builder? Note: not sure about the original, but "diameter" instead of "circumference" would be correct.
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Akira on October 25, 2015, 14:12:48
Elsa, this is impressive and elegant!
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Jakov Minić on October 25, 2015, 23:39:13
Elsa, very symmetric, my dear  :)
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Thomas G on January 08, 2016, 21:30:14
I thought this was St Marien in Stralsund, but I'm quite sure now that it's somewhere else.

This is the organ in St Nikolai, a major church build from 1381 to 1487 in Wismar, Germany.
Wiki link English (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Nicholas,Wismar), Wiki Link deutsch (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolaikirche_(Wismar)#Orgel)
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Airy on January 08, 2016, 21:33:21
Confirmed ! but I do not know either. Have you tried google images ?
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Frank Fremerey on January 08, 2016, 21:33:31
Thomas. Thank you for the contribution. A bit of research would be most helpful.
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Thomas G on January 08, 2016, 21:47:50
Thomas. Thank you for the contribution. A bit of research would be most helpful.
Frank, please see above. I finally was able to identify the church.
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Airy on January 08, 2016, 22:02:55
Thanks for the links ; a very intersting organ (on paper at least) with an unusual look.
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Airy on January 08, 2016, 22:40:30
Organs without cases were fashionable between 1930 and 1960, approximately. Not such a good idea because the pipework gets exposed to dust and falling plaster, also because the sound easily gets dispersed in all directions. From a purely musical point of view, there are good and bad ones, and the manufacturing quality had more to suffer from the economic crises and wars than from the absence of casing. Still, such organs often get associated with "bad quality" without further checking, which is stupid.

This one, in Lille, is from 1950. It is a very solid organ with good tonal qualities, and one of the feww organs here that were recorded by first-rate organists (Gaston Litaize in that case, and several times).

What you see is only the pipework of the "choir" organ, i.e. a smaller set of pipes located low at the gallery girder, in the back of the organist who faces the main body of pipes. The choir organ is played via the second manuel (out of three) in this case; usually (17th-18th centuries) it would be the first.
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: armando_m on January 08, 2016, 23:15:35
Santo Domingo church in Zacatecas México

Searching on the web found this:
The organ is from 1750's , it had fallen into disrepair, an 8 year effort to make it work again concluded in April 2015
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Airy on January 08, 2016, 23:24:51
Looks great; typical XVIIIth Spanish style, given the trompeteria.

I see that the upper labia of the front pipes have been decorated with devilish blue faces : can you upload a 100% crop of that detail please ?
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Akira on January 09, 2016, 00:05:29
Wow, Thomas, Airy and Armando, thanks for further additions of great organs!  I really enjoy different styles from different periods and countries.

my first organ photo - not very impressive though, but with a huge history
taken in "de Groote Kerk" Cape Town - corner stone laid in December 1700
The current organ has 5 917pipes, four "manuale" and pedals and a console with 102 registers. The longest pipe is 9,5m long with a circumference of 254mm and the shortest is 6mm long with a circumference of  2,5mm. Pipes were made of copper, tin and wood.

The natural resonance frequency of a 9.5m pipe is about 20Hz (assuming it is an open pipe), which roughly corresponds to E0!
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Frank Fremerey on January 09, 2016, 18:53:57
Frank, please see above. I finally was able to identify the church.

Thank you. Love to come back to this thread again and again!
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Frank Fremerey on January 09, 2016, 18:57:00
What you see is only the pipework of the "choir" organ, i.e. a smaller set of pipes located low at the gallery girder, in the back of the organist who faces the main body of pipes. The choir organ is played via the second manuel (out of three) in this case; usually (17th-18th centuries) it would be the first.

Klais just made and upgrade to our oldest organ in St. Johan Baptis & Petrus (Stiftskirche). Now you can play the main organ from several manuals via WLAN...
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Fons Baerken on January 09, 2016, 19:00:09
Organs without cases were fashionable between 1930 and 1960, approximately. Not such a good idea because the pipework gets exposed to dust and falling plaster, also because the sound easily gets dispersed in all directions. From a purely musical point of view, there are good and bad ones, and the manufacturing quality had more to suffer from the economic crises and wars than from the absence of casing. Still, such organs often get associated with "bad quality" without further checking, which is stupid.

This one, in Lille, is from 1950. It is a very solid organ with good tonal qualities, and one of the feww organs here that were recorded by first-rate organists (Gaston Litaize in that case, and several times).

What you see is only the pipework of the "choir" organ, i.e. a smaller set of pipes located low at the gallery girder, in the back of the organist who faces the main body of pipes. The choir organ is played via the second manuel (out of three) in this case; usually (17th-18th centuries) it would be the first.

Awesome shot
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Airy on January 09, 2016, 21:51:08
Fons, that's definitely pipe porn. But I enjoyed putting the grey pipes in relation with the grey pillars.
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Jakov Minić on January 12, 2016, 11:24:51
I found this image I took in the Dutch city of Deventer last year.
So I thought it would be nice to donate an organ of mine to this wonderful thread :)

Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Frank Fremerey on January 12, 2016, 14:03:41
Jakov. This is obviously another Müller. Looks llike the sister of the one in Haarlem. Cool shot.
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: armando_m on January 12, 2016, 16:42:25
Looks great; typical XVIIIth Spanish style, given the trompeteria.

I see that the upper labia of the front pipes have been decorated with devilish blue faces : can you upload a 100% crop of that detail please ?
Airy

here is the crop

(https://armando-m.smugmug.com/Travel/Zacatecas/i-sGVGsnM/0/O/_DSC7435_DxO-2.jpg)
right click - view image to see it at the actual size 2287x1286 pixels

I have not see it 100% before you noted this detail, good eye!

ps: just for bragging rights shot handheld, 25-85VR zoom, 85mm, 1/10 sec, f/5.6, ISO 6400
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Airy on January 17, 2016, 16:42:50
The first organ on which I intensively practised : choir organ of Verdun cathedral, France. Both with Df and high ISO, Tamron 45/1.8 at (f/4, 1/8s) and (f/8, 1/4s) handheld, respectively. Distortion left "as is", not worth correcting.
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: armando_m on January 17, 2016, 17:26:13
Really like the subtle green tones of the tubes detail shot
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Airy on January 17, 2016, 17:43:11
Zinc pipes ! plus a mixed lighting (stained glass with magenta dominant from the left, cold daylight from the remote right, one incadescent lamp in the vicinity, etc.) hence the impossible neutral gray.
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Frank Fremerey on January 17, 2016, 19:11:37
How did you light this?
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Akira on January 17, 2016, 20:42:35
Beautiful "little" organ!  You should have been inspired and motivated!
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Airy on January 17, 2016, 21:17:33
@Frank : ambient light, with all the complexity mentioned above.
@Akira : in fact, it does not sounds not that nice - the tone has been "pushed" to fill the cathedral, it seems. Moreover, playing was extremely uncomfortable, because of electric action that would react to the lightest touch (very short distance between key at rest and closed contact). To some extent that was useful, one had to be very precise... but it was impossible to have hands normally "resting" on the keyboards, hence a permanent tension.
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Frank Fremerey on January 17, 2016, 21:24:10
Airy. Then the Architects idea and your time played wonderfully
hand in hand....
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Akira on January 17, 2016, 21:33:03
@Akira : in fact, it does not sounds not that nice - the tone has been "pushed" to fill the cathedral, it seems. Moreover, playing was extremely uncomfortable, because of electric action that would react to the lightest touch (very short distance between key at rest and closed contact). To some extent that was useful, one had to be very precise... but it was impossible to have hands normally "resting" on the keyboards, hence a permanent tension.

I see.  I kind of feel for your frustration.  The user interface of any musical instrument is very critical.
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Airy on January 17, 2016, 21:40:28
On the other hand, the "Art Déco" look of these mass-producted instruments (in the twenties-thirties) is not bad, and the manufacturing quality was remarkable. This thing has survived although maintenance seldom takes place.
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Akira on January 17, 2016, 21:47:58
On the other hand, the "Art Déco" look of these mass-producted instruments (in the twenties-thirties) is not bad, and the manufacturing quality was remarkable. This thing has survived although maintenance seldom takes place.

The organ mass-produced in the 20s and 30s has a full mechanical keyboard (manual was the correct term?), right?
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Airy on January 17, 2016, 21:53:53
Nope. Electric action and electro-pneumatic wind chests (with membranes) were then a commonplace in France, Germany, ... The US rather quickly moved to individual electromagnetic valves (one per pipe), requiring more wiring, electricity, etc., but that was a "rich" solution.

The "back to full mechanical" was a reaction against that, therefore appearing in the late twenties (Orgelbewegung in Germany) although the tonal scheme was the first aim. Mass-producted mechanical action appeared after 2nd WW.

Reims cathedral was the first case, in France, of a newly built (1938) mechanical action for a very big organ (4 manuals and pedals, about 85 stops), and quite a bit experimental because the skills and know-how had somehow to be "restored"...
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Akira on January 17, 2016, 22:14:12
Interesting.  Thanks for the details!
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Frank Fremerey on January 21, 2016, 15:14:27
Die Orgel der Franziskuskirche ist wie alle Orgeln von Sankt Petrus ein Werk der Firma Klais aus Bonn und wurde am 25.12.1966 ihrer Bestimmung übergeben.

Die Orgel hat auf zwei Manuale und Pedal verteilt 17 klingende Register bei mechanischen Trakturen. Die Disposition stammt von Prof. Joseph Zimmermann, ehem. Domorganist am Hohen Dom zu Köln, Hans-Gerd Klais und dem damaligen Kirchenmusiker an Sankt Franziskus, Otto Höhner.

Das Besondere dieser Orgel ist sicher die ungewöhnliche Prospektgestaltung, die sich aber dem Kirchenraum und speziell dem Deckengewölbe optimal anpasst. Ein besonderer Blickfang sind  die horizontal in den Kirchenraum hineinragenden Pfeifen des Registers “Fagott 16’”.

Die Orgel besitzt einen vierfachen mechanischen Setzer. Nach der Kirchenrenovierung 2000 wurde sie gereinigt und teilweise neu intoniert.
Die Disposition lautet:

Pedal (C-f')
Subbass 16
Offenbass 8
Holzoctave 4
Fagott 16

Hauptwerk - Manual I (C-g''')
Principal 8
Holzgedackt 8
Octavflöte 4
Gemshorn 2
Mixtur 4 fach
Trompete 8

Schwellwerk - Manual II (C-g''')
Rohrflöte 8
Blockflöte 4
Principal 2
Quinte 1 1/3
Sesquialter 1-2 fach
Scharff 3 fach
Dulcian 16

Spielhilfen
Koppel I an Ped, Koppel II an Ped, Koppel II an I, Tremulant SW
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Thomas G on January 23, 2016, 21:13:11
It's still winter, dark outside, and I'm going through my archives.

Organ at Nederluleå Church  in Gammelstaden,  Luleå, Sweden.
This church was built in the 15th century, and it was inaugurated by Archbishop Jacob Ulvsson Örnfot in 1492.
The church organ was introduced in 1971.
It has 55 stops and 4,200 pipes. Their length varying from 5mm to 6m.
The builder was Grönlunds Organ Builders AB in Gammelstad.
In 1988-1990 the organ was enhanced with a micro computer-based combination system(1000 combinations).
[edit] dispositions added, though in Swedish language [/edit]

Huvudverk            Svällverk         Pedal            
Gedakt16'              Borduna 16'        Principal  16'      
Principal 8'            Principal 8'       Subbas 16'         
Spetsflöjt 8'           Rörflöjt 8'        Kvinta 10 2/3'      
Oktava 4'               Spetsgamba 8'      Oktava 8'         
Rörflöjt 4'             Vox celeste 8'     Gedakt 8'         
Kvinta 22/3'            Oktava 4'          Oktava 4'         
Oktava 2'               Traversflöjt 4'    Koppelflöjt 4'     
Cornett 4 ch            Nasat 2 2~3'       Nachthorn 2'      
Mixtur 5-7 ch           Oktava 2'          Mixtur 6 ch       
Trumpet 16'             Ters 13/5'         Basun 16'         
Trumpet 8'              Waldflöjt 1 '      Trumpet 8'         
Cymbelstjärna           Mixtur 5-6 ch      Ciarion 4'         
                        Fagott l 6'                           
Ryggpositiv             Trumpet 8'                            
Gedakt 8'               Oboe 8'                               
Kvintadena 8'           Tremulant                         
Principal 4'                                                  
Gedaktflöjt 4'          Bröstverk                             
Waldflöjt 2'            Trägedakt 8'                          
Sifflöjt l '            Rörflöjt 4'                           
Sesquialtera 2 ch       Principal 2'                         
Scharll 3-4 ch          Blockflöjt 2'                         
Dulcian 16'             Kvinta 1 1/3'                         
Rörskalmeja 8'          Cymbel 3 ch                       
Tremulant               Vox humana 8'                         
                        Tremulant                             
HV/BV, HV/SV, HV/RP, P/BV, P/SV, P/HV, P/RF, RP/SV
                                                                               
                                                                                       
(1: Organ, Overview)
(2: Organ, crop view)
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Frank Fremerey on January 23, 2016, 22:06:50
Thomas. Wonderful organ and camera work!
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Thomas G on January 23, 2016, 22:42:00
Thomas. Wonderful organ and camera work!
Thanks you, Frank.
I just added the dispositons.
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Airy on January 24, 2016, 17:47:19
In the last one, the vault and the organ case fit, as if the edges would pull the case up.
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Frank Fremerey on February 12, 2016, 17:25:05
another take at the St. Franziskus piece,
shot with my new Gem: The 2006 AiS 1.4/35mm @1.4!!!
Geometrical correction in PTLens
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: ArendV on February 12, 2016, 17:36:56
St. Paul's Abbey, Oosterhout (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Paul's_Abbey,_Oosterhout)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5181/5765795429_436b34d54e_o.jpg)
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Frank Fremerey on February 12, 2016, 17:46:23
Thank you Arend.
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: John Geerts on March 21, 2016, 16:21:15
As posted in the Utrecht - topic
Dom - Utrecht
(http://nikongear.net/revival/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3098.0;attach=10272;image)
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Frank Fremerey on March 21, 2016, 16:53:25
We had lots of cameras in that church!

1) D3 & 85mm
2) D600 & 35mm
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Tom Gresham on March 22, 2016, 03:26:36
In a church in Nuremberg.
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Airy on March 22, 2016, 08:45:09
Sankt Sebald I guess, where Werner Jacob (1938-2006) has been active for many years.

Nice carving below the front pipes, the first time I see it, thanks to your framing.
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: HCS on March 22, 2016, 20:31:12
So many from Utrecht here, why not trash in another one.
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Frank Fremerey on March 22, 2016, 20:37:00
HCS supershot of the organ!!!!
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Post by: HCS on March 22, 2016, 20:43:59
HCS supershot of the organ!!!!

Thanks Frank. I thought to escape the lunatic group of photographers who were shooting straight at the organ  8). I moved to the back of the church.
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Frank Fremerey on March 22, 2016, 20:49:29
Thanks Frank. I thought to escape the lunatic group of photographers who were shooting straight at the organ  8). I moved to the back of the church.



my D3 image of the organ is taken far far back in the church. In fact  very far back where no photographers are.
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: HCS on March 22, 2016, 20:52:02
my D3 image of the organ is taken far far back in the church. In fact  very far back where no photographers are.

 ;D
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Bruno Schroder on March 22, 2016, 21:00:02
another one from Utrecht then
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: HCS on March 22, 2016, 21:01:30
another one from Utrecht then

If you intend to show a picture of yours, you need to attach it Bruno (or link it). I see no picture


I see it now. And a nice one it is!
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Frank Fremerey on March 22, 2016, 21:03:46
Bruno. Nice up-and-over.
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Jakov Minić on March 22, 2016, 21:23:25
Lovely perspective Bruno!
Title: Re: The Organ Thread
Post by: Bruno Schroder on March 22, 2016, 21:57:20
Thank you. I was the lunatic shooting orthogonal to the organ :)
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Frank Fremerey on April 05, 2016, 15:44:23
Today I got luck. The organ of this church is hidden in an alcove on the right side of the choir (first picture, opposite the window).

But, just as I left the house a young woman came to practice organ. She had all the keys!!!

I also had a nice view from the organ alcove down the alley towards the window rosette!
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Airy on April 08, 2016, 23:31:13
Nine months since I last put my fingers onto teise devilish devices.
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Airy on April 08, 2016, 23:32:39
The same, a few hours and half of Grigny's organ book later
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Frank Fremerey on April 08, 2016, 23:50:01
I love it that we continue this and find new participants from time to time. What would Nikongear be without the Organ Thread???
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Airy on April 11, 2016, 01:24:43
Lille, St Sauveur. A run-of-the-mill organ maybe, by the (very good) Belgian organ builder Pierre Schyven, late XIXth century. A sad testimony of our distracted times - the front pipes have been stolen by the German army in 1917 for being turned into weapons and ammunition, as well as bells (in Germany by too the way - vandalism knows no borders).

They have been replaced by relatively cheap zinc pipes after the war, instead of tin. Not that zinc sounds necessarily worse - but it looks worse, as it is impossible to get it shiny.

Df + 105/2.5, f/4, 1/125s, 9000 ISO (yesss), handheld of course.
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Airy on May 12, 2016, 22:33:58
Krakow, SS Peter and Paul. A composite organ, with a small XVIIIth century center element, and ugly alignments of pipes to hide complementary material from the early XXth I guess. Df, Tamron 45/1.8, f/5.6, 1/15s handheld, 1000 ISO. Bizarre looks, but the organ seems to sound pretty good.
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Thomas G on May 13, 2016, 21:05:16
Krakow, SS Peter and Paul. A composite organ, with a small XVIIIth century center element, and ugly alignments of pipes to hide complementary material from the early XXth I guess. Df, Tamron 45/1.8, f/5.6, 1/15s handheld, 1000 ISO. Bizarre looks, but the organ seems to sound pretty good.
The pipes display looks like abstract angel wings. I like the different design. The lens seems to work quite well but not optimal for the situation?
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Airy on May 13, 2016, 22:08:05
Maybe, but in what sense ?
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: John Geerts on May 13, 2016, 22:19:46
It's a strange organ yes ;)   The Tamron looks somehow 'flat', but it must have been pretty dark, I guess.
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Airy on May 13, 2016, 22:47:02
Not dark, but there was only diffuse light.
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Thomas G on May 14, 2016, 23:44:17
Maybe, but in what sense ?
I see (feel?) a descending IQ towards the light sorce. Seems like an issue with the amount of diffuse light falling from the top onto the upper half of the front lense.
I've seen that behaviour before, unfortunately don't remember the lense.
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Thomas G on May 14, 2016, 23:45:37
Organ in the Schloss Burg chapel.
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Airy on May 15, 2016, 06:25:00
I see (feel?) a descending IQ towards the light sorce. Seems like an issue with the amount of diffuse light falling from the top onto the upper half of the front lense.
I've seen that behaviour before, unfortunately don't remember the lense.

Could be. one certainthing thought is, DOF is not infinite. Focus was on the XVIIIth organ case, and the aperture f/4.5 or so, with a rather steep angle and no tilt of course.

@Thomas: the alfresco painting drew my attention, a German Puvis de Chavannes so to say. Painter?
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Thomas G on May 15, 2016, 10:44:39
@Thomas: the alfresco painting drew my attention, a German Puvis de Chavannes so to say. Painter?
I think these are from Willi Spatz (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willy_Spatz), painted around 1900.
The theme set is 'chritianization'.
Quite interesting tourist place, we had the luck of so-and-so weather which gave us plenty of room and time as it was not crowded the day.
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Airy on May 15, 2016, 11:18:52
Thanks for the details. Puvis was born 1824 and Spatz 1861, but that does not imply an influence of the former on the latter. From German Wikipedia : "Er ist besonders bekannt für seine großflächigen historisierenden Wand- und Ölgemälde. Insbesondere ein Wandgemäldezyklus in der Kapelle von Schloss Burg an der Wupper (entstanden von 1899 bis 1901) brachte ihm den Durchbruch für eine ganze Reihe weiterer derartiger Schöpfungen."

In the wikisphere, he's known in German and Russian only. A pity.
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Peter McLennan on May 27, 2016, 21:47:35
Superb images, gang. An amazing thread and an infinitely challenging photographic situation. Makes me want to go and put Vidor on the stereo.
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Airy on May 31, 2016, 21:30:18
Milano, San Babila. Organ by Zanin, 2007, more or less saxon style by the specification, but unfortunately I could not hear it. Df, 50/2 AI at f/4.
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Airy on June 03, 2016, 22:50:23
Milano, Museum of Sciences & Techniques (da Vinci museum). Cabinet organ by Agati, 1826
Df @12800 ISO + 50/2 @ f/4
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Airy on June 05, 2016, 21:33:37
... and its front pipes ...
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Akira on June 05, 2016, 23:02:17
What an interesting organ!  It the pedal just for E to B?
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Airy on June 05, 2016, 23:05:48
What an interesting organ!  It the pedal just for E to B?
No, it is the so-called "short octave" :
you see : E  F  F#  G  G#  A  Bb  H
you play: C  F D   G   E    A  Bb H

First octave of the keyboard has the same layout.

the two pedals on the right are for special effects (drums - in fact, two low tones with a small difference in frequency, giving a rolling sound)
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Akira on June 05, 2016, 23:15:34
No, it is the so-called "short octave" :
you see : E  F  F#  G  G#  A  Bb  H
you play: C  F D   G   E    A  Bb H

First octave of the keyboard has the same layout.

the two pedals on the right are for special effects (drums - in fact, two low tones with a small difference in frequency, giving a rolling sound)

Never heard of the "short octave".  Just looked into the Wiki.  It is very interesting and makes sense.  I knew about the special effects pedals from the giraffe pianos, but didn't know that organs had such pedals.

Thanks for the explanation.
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Jakov Minić on June 05, 2016, 23:21:47
Today in Maastricht, I made this image specially for my dear Frank and other organ lovers :)
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: the solitaire on June 05, 2016, 23:58:10
Amazing shot. Lovely church from the inside ;)
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Frank Fremerey on June 06, 2016, 00:14:16
Thank you, Jakov! what a wonderful shot. I had 2 minutes before being expelled by a fierce soldier and a multi language tape. Konstantin took a picture of the guy.

Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Mike G on July 11, 2016, 19:27:30
Trier Dom

Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Frank Fremerey on July 11, 2016, 20:20:02
Really fascinating piece, Mr. Gorman!
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Akira on July 11, 2016, 20:30:49
Mike, it looks like a gorgeous sound machine!
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Frank Fremerey on July 21, 2016, 19:46:34
I found an organ picture on my smartphone.
From the context it must have been taken in our
holiday in Haarlem, NL

But I do not really remember

More hints show it was taken at 21 July 15 when I was in Haarlem
but the picture itself might well have been taken in Denmark where
my father was at the time with his wife. Then it came by WhatsApp
and was therefore automagically inserted into my WatsApp picture
folder where it is difficult to tell from my pictures...
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Fons Baerken on July 21, 2016, 20:13:59
To whom it may concern

the annual organfestival Haarlem 2016

http://www.organfestival.nl/en/index.html#english (http://www.organfestival.nl/en/index.html#english)
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Frank Fremerey on July 21, 2016, 20:21:48
To whom it may concern
the annual organfestival Haarlem 2016
http://www.organfestival.nl/en/index.html#english (http://www.organfestival.nl/en/index.html#english)

Thank you, Fons! They have some very nice pipes there!
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Mike G on July 21, 2016, 20:43:05
Akira, I was only in the cathedral for a few minutes, and it was not being played!

But I'm sure it is impressive to hear it being played, this sort of organ usually is.
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Lars Hansen on July 22, 2016, 18:43:54
St. Benedict's (Sankt Bendts) church in Ringsted, Denmark.

Details: Organ built 1970 by Andersen (Poul-Gerhard Andersen), Denmark. 46 voices.
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Frank Fremerey on July 22, 2016, 21:41:57
Thank you LARS.
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Airy on July 22, 2016, 22:21:41
That organ was one of the favorites of French organists (Michel Chapuis, and Marie-Claire Alain - the lady who recorded Bach's integral work at least three times)
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Lars Hansen on July 23, 2016, 12:21:03
Thank you LARS.

That organ was one of the favorites of French organists (Michel Chapuis, and Marie-Claire Alain - the lady who recorded Bach's integral work at least three times)

Thanks Frank and Airy.

Thanks for enlightening me Airy - I was not aware those great French organists had this organ among their favorites and have also published recordings playing it. 

Details: Organ built 1970 by Andersen (Poul-Gerhard Andersen), Denmark. 46 voices.
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Mike G on July 23, 2016, 18:35:59
 Part of the organ in the Dom at Koln.

Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Frank Fremerey on July 23, 2016, 19:30:07
Mike. G. Wonderful picture!!!!
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Lars Hansen on July 29, 2016, 18:09:13
The organ of Sankt Nicolai church in Kolding, Denmark.

Built by Marcussen & Søn, Denmark - finished 1977. 57 voices.

 
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Frank Fremerey on July 29, 2016, 19:13:38
I found an organ picture on my smartphone.
From the context it must have been taken in our
holiday in Haarlem, NL

But I do not really remember

More hints show it was taken at 21 July 15 when I was in Haarlem
but the picture itself might well have been taken in Denmark where
my father was at the time with his wife. Then it came by WhatsApp
and was therefore automagically inserted into my WatsApp picture
folder where it is difficult to tell from my pictures...

This is St. Nikolai in Kappeln an der Schlei. Photo taken by Martina Nießen ...

... here is the Wikipedia Photo of it:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Nikolai_(Kappeln)#/media/File:Kirche_Kappeln_Altar.jpg

... and the Article in Dansk and Deutsch only:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Nikolai_(Kappeln)
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Airy on August 01, 2016, 00:47:32
Edinburgh, St Giles : Rieger 1992. Fresh from the 26th of July. OM-D + Oly 12/2.0 at f/3.2, 1/15s ; 1600 ISO
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Frank Fremerey on August 01, 2016, 00:49:08
Airy: very special aestheics & style. Modern and some 1920ies in it too. How does it sound?
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Airy on August 01, 2016, 00:55:54
Could not hear it other than from a CD. Reputed to be very loud in the smallish church. Otherwise like most Riegers (cf. Ratzeburg, usw.)
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Airy on August 12, 2016, 22:45:18
Today's workplace. Proper keyboards, unlike computers'. Handheld shot, with the magnificent Zeiss 25/2.
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: John Geerts on August 12, 2016, 22:58:50
Looks good.   Better than the Zeiss 35/2?
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Airy on August 13, 2016, 11:10:24
Similar ; the 35/2 might even be more flare-proof. It is my best lens for shooting against the light.
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Frank Fremerey on August 13, 2016, 12:02:28
Wow #251 ... very attractive!
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Lars Hansen on August 13, 2016, 12:06:59
A moderately sized organ from a small parish church in Denmark - Smidstrup church.

Organ: Bruhn & Sønner, 1976 (?), 13 voices.
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Lars Hansen on August 13, 2016, 12:10:34
Today's workplace. Proper keyboards, unlike computers'.

Fascinating workplace Airy!
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Akira on August 13, 2016, 12:13:54
Today's workplace. Proper keyboards, unlike computers'. Handheld shot, with the magnificent Zeiss 25/2.

Gorgeous manuals!  What did you play?
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Airy on August 13, 2016, 12:42:35
Bach, BWV 655 (Herr Jesu Christ, dich zu uns wend, trio). Long working on it. Then Tournemire choral poème n°2, and Messiaen (le banquet céleste) for relaxing, also because the organ is much more suitable for XXth century music. Then back to Bach, BWV 651, 652, 653 (more Leipzig chorales).

Lars, I wish I had that one for Bach. The precise tone emission is a plus. In my present case, the console is in the nave and the organ up there, so the feedback comes with a delay... see picture (again Zeiss 25/2, straightened in LR)
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Akira on August 13, 2016, 12:50:16
"Le Banquet Céleste" is one of my favorite!  I'd love to listen to it in a real church.
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Airy on August 13, 2016, 14:16:22
then come and visit me ; it is also one of my absolute favorites. Messiaen composed it aged 18, on a summer holiday on the countryside (at his aunts' farm). Maybe that's where the extreme serenity of the tune comes from. That's also why I play it on summers (or, in my former times as a liturgy organist, in festo corporis christi which usually is close to summer).

If you cannot find a porthole to get to Lille, I'll send you a link to the next best thing - a concert recording (Yves Castagnet playing) which includes "le banquet" immediately followed by the matching vocal piece "O sacrum convivium" by the same young Messiaen. As the microphones were set up for the organ record, the choir (standing near the altar) was recorded in quite a distance, so you'll get the full atmosphere. Fortunately, the mikes (Neumann KM184) have a frequency response that is nearly isotropic, so the sound is reverberated but not dull.

Cherry on the cake, the organ and the church (St Michel in Lille) are as close as possible to Messiaen's Trinité church in Paris, just slightly smaller...
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Lars Hansen on August 13, 2016, 14:59:09
Lars, I wish I had that one for Bach. The precise tone emission is a plus. In my present case, the console is in the nave and the organ up there, so the feedback comes with a delay... see picture (again Zeiss 25/2, straightened in LR)

I can imagine that is a challenge and more so in a large church room with the extra reverberation (correct term?).
I recently heard a concert rehearsal of Beethoven's 7. symphony in a church - not an easy task for the musicians it seemed. I did not buy a ticket...   
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Fons Baerken on August 13, 2016, 23:03:57
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7519/28342254703_731171b8d4_o.jpg)

Saint Pierre, Saint Laurent, Bauge
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Airy on August 13, 2016, 23:20:38
Mid XIXth century I guess. Wish you also had taken the other side.
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Post by: Fons Baerken on August 13, 2016, 23:28:44
Mid XIXth century I guess. Wish you also had taken the other side.

Backside didnt seem very interesting to me
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Thomas G on August 14, 2016, 14:43:29
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7519/28342254703_731171b8d4_o.jpg)

Saint Pierre, Saint Laurent, Bauge
Nice one. Actually listening to Dolores - Bohren & der Club of Gore (https://youtu.be/Z-dfbceq4x4) which gives the right mood to look at pictures of organs.
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Frank Fremerey on August 14, 2016, 17:15:27
Today at mass

Orgelbau Kreienbrink

never heard of them. The sound was soso.

 The player was really good.

spontaneus fill in for the scheduled one who dropped out.
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Airy on August 14, 2016, 22:07:04
Good looks (and sharp pic). Wolfgang Stockmeier, former organ professor in Köln, recorded all JS BAch works on Kreienbrink organs. They sound very clean but also very "neutral", a bit lifeless.
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Frank Fremerey on August 14, 2016, 22:51:15
We have a Klais choir organ of the same size in St Marien. It sounds like a big one. A huuuuge one ...

PS: The D500 and 1.4/24G are a perfect match. Unbelievable in any respect.
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Frank Fremerey on September 26, 2016, 19:27:30
Here are some nice shots of the Trinité with their long term organist (60 years!) Olivier Messiaen playing the impressive instrument: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY7g0ULVl2I
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Akira on September 26, 2016, 19:44:09
Here are some nice shots of the Trinité with their long term organist (60 years!) Olivier Messiaen playing the impressive instrument: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY7g0ULVl2I

The video is ripped from a DVD containing these organ improvisations and "Quatuor pour la Fin du Temps".
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Akira on September 27, 2016, 14:01:11
Jehan Alain works for organ CD recorded by his sister Marie-Claire Alain has arrived.  I'm looking forward to listen to it.  :)
Title: Re: [Theme] The Organ Thread
Post by: Airy on September 27, 2016, 14:26:19
She recorder three sets. Which year ((P), not (C)) is yours?
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Post by: Akira on September 27, 2016, 14:32:45
She recorder three sets. Which year ((P), not (C)) is yours?

My CD was recorded in 2000 and 2001 (P) on Erato Disques.
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Post by: Airy on September 27, 2016, 14:53:51
so that's the second integral recording, "historically informed" because she would try and use organs her brother played.
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Post by: Akira on September 27, 2016, 15:01:26
Thanks for the identification.  At this point, I have no way to compare three versions (apparently the first one is uploaded on YouTube, though), but at least my CDs seems to be interesting to listen to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJfXCR7uyoo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXpU-oE_nms
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Post by: Airy on October 05, 2016, 23:11:27
Madrid, N.S. de Almudena cathedral. Recent organ by Gerhard Grenzing. Shot Oct 2, Df + Summicron R 50/2 at f/4-f/5.6 probably
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Post by: Airy on October 05, 2016, 23:26:25
Madrid, S. Miguel. Df, 45/1.8 Tamron at f/5.0, 9000 ISO and 1/8s. The church was already dark, but for the window over the organ.
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on October 06, 2016, 08:39:43
I am really very impressed by #276. What an instrument!

All these symbols, the sun, the moon, the stars and the regional emblems add to the mystery.
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Post by: Airy on October 06, 2016, 09:23:17
Yeah, and Grenzing's signature big enough to be read from the nave. Never seen that before.
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Post by: Lars Hansen on October 08, 2016, 11:30:44
In case it has interest - music: Old Swedish Organs 

The booklet contains older photos and specifications of the organs being played.

http://www.eclassical.com/performers/fagius-hans/old-swedish-organs.html
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Post by: Thomas G on October 13, 2016, 23:17:30
:-)
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Post by: Thomas G on October 13, 2016, 23:40:30
Main organ in Hallgrímskirkja, Reykjavík, Iceland.
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Post by: golunvolo on October 14, 2016, 00:25:54
Église Unie Saint-James, Montreal.
Since I didn´t know, I will like for you guys to point out if I miss something important. I´m growing fond of this thread.
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on October 27, 2016, 01:00:53
Missions were used by the Spanish to colonize California with Real Estate Management, Prayer, Enslavement & Murder.

This Organ sits in the Mission San Juan Capistrano in San Juan Capistrano, CA

It is really very dark in that room and I tried to keep the original impression...
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on October 27, 2016, 01:08:40
ThomasG: These are the first pictures I see from you Iceland Experience ... 9000 ... wow. I came back from California with 8700, but I bracket +1/0/-1 all the time, so in truth only 2900. ... Back to the image: This is a very beautiful huge organ and somehow you managed to take a geometrically perfect shot of it. So I guess you used pano technology to take and later correct it?
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on October 27, 2016, 01:11:46
Église Unie Saint-James, Montreal.
Since I didn´t know, I will like for you guys to point out if I miss something important. I´m growing fond of this thread.

Photographically I like the first image most, which is kind of two images in one: The organ geometrically stabilized as the focussed background and the chandelier as a disturbing element, a sidekick...

... very interesting
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Post by: Thomas G on October 27, 2016, 19:30:14
ThomasG: These are the first pictures I see from you Iceland Experience ... 9000 ... wow. I came back from California with 8700, but I bracket +1/0/-1 all the time, so in truth only 2900. ... Back to the image: This is a very beautiful huge organ and somehow you managed to take a geometrically perfect shot of it. So I guess you used pano technology to take and later correct it?
Thanks! Yes, it is one of many. Free hand pano and some post effort.
More of Hallgrímskirkja in Reykjavik:

1 - The organ, built by Klais, has 5275 pipes.
2 - alternate take, AW 1, 10mm/2,8
3 - side organ
4 - side organ back pipe detail
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Post by: MFloyd on October 27, 2016, 20:30:36
Beautiful organ, but make me dream... There, I see pictures for a organ manufacturer catalog.  On top, there is too much grain / noise.  I have also a big problem with the framing: (1) why all this front scene ?; (2) what has the ugly window to do there; (3) portrait framing would enhance the organ pipes, now they are cut somewhere in the middle.
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on October 27, 2016, 21:25:51
The Klais workshop is round the Corner, Philipp Klais sat next to my brother in school and the opening picture is a picture I took for him. Exciting to see things from Bonn all over the world, not only HARIBO Gummi Bears!
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Post by: Thomas G on October 27, 2016, 21:29:41
Beautiful organ, but make me dream... There, I see pictures for a organ manufacturer catalog.  On top, there is too much grain / noise. 
Dreaming is allowed. Dreaming of going there again I'd bring and tripod, a flash and a helping hand maybe. Invite a lesser number of other tourists. Other time of the day.
Less direct sun... a lot of fairy tale wishes.

Well, there is noise if the light is low and shadows creep in. Adding to that: small CX sensor. I don't mind it that much.
This is not glossy advertising. More documentary while walking by.

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I have also a big problem with the framing:
(1) why all this front scene ?;
I like it with environment or straight on the nose. The latter I did not bring the equipment for.
I don't like shooting up at strange levels in geometric environments, a distant position helps de-fuzzing the capture.
Well, it may be cut-framed, but then the lighting deficits will be more prominent and balance will loose as well. (see attached)
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(2) what has the ugly window to do there;
the world is ugly sometimes. tryptich as the organ framing. explains the ugly light spot. (see attached)
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(3) portrait framing would enhance the organ pipes, now they are cut somewhere in the middle.
not available as it was not to my liking. the pipe mouths are. the copper dents are. does not pay off without the sun illuminated church room.
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Overall you have a penny in the right bucket - they could be better, but than there would be none and the organ go unnoticed for now.
Here you are:
2 - re-cut. do not like. background plays out too prosaic for my liking.
1 - re-cut 4/5 & 1/1. some more grain&noise surpression. could go with the 4/5th version.

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Post by: MFloyd on October 27, 2016, 22:03:51
Much better 👍  I hope my comments didn't come over as being too blunt. Go on !
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Post by: Anthony on October 27, 2016, 23:15:40
I really like §2, showing the organ in the context of the church.
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on October 28, 2016, 02:58:13
http://klais.de/m.php?tid=1
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Post by: simato73 on December 31, 2016, 20:44:59
Church of St Michael the Archangel, Shalfleet, Isle of Wight, England, on Christmas day 2016.
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Post by: Airy on December 31, 2016, 20:55:10
Another nice one, depicting a "humble" parish organ. Curtains are typically English. Organists there have the possibility to dig into their noses or fumble their iPhones (or the page-turning, stop-drawing lady) during services.
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on December 31, 2016, 22:07:02
Simone: That IS a beauty!
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Post by: Thomas G on January 01, 2017, 01:12:29
Church of St Michael the Archangel, Shalfleet, Isle of Wight, England, on Christmas day 2016.
Nice. Technical appereance in a Normannic (?) church.
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Post by: armando_m on January 01, 2017, 01:36:00
Organ at the Mexico city cathedral

there is actually 2 of them , one on each side of the main aisle
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Post by: simato73 on January 01, 2017, 10:35:35
Another nice one, depicting a "humble" parish organ. Curtains are typically English. Organists there have the possibility to dig into their noses or fumble their iPhones (or the page-turning, stop-drawing lady) during services.

Nice. Technical appereance in a Normannic (?) church.

Simone: That IS a beauty!

Thank you all, it is indeed a lovely church.
Thomas: I think you are right, it is from Norman times. I have been told the church is mentioned in the Domesday Book.
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Post by: Bruno Schroder on January 04, 2017, 14:08:19
Totness, handheld, little light
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Post by: Eric Borgström on January 10, 2017, 16:59:29
The oldest organ in the world?? Hardly an organ anymore but the casing from 1370, later a vestry.

Is it the oldest casing? Historical Museum, Stockholm, Sweden

/Eric
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on January 10, 2017, 17:28:12
Oldest, biggest or whatever record claimed?

A nice reference point: http://database.organsociety.org/

They feature:

59,765 Pipe Organ entries
25,276 Photographs
18,258 Stoplists
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on January 16, 2017, 07:01:47
The organ in our main church (St Johan Baptist & Petrus) had to be rewired due to fire protection. They did that and made the organ playable from different manuals via WiFi also.

More important for us is that the Klais Workshop did reintonate the instrumet after rewiring. Since then it is probably one of the best sounding organs in Bonn. Fascinating, very strong & subtle!

Airy. You have to hear & play this instrument. This beauty is definitely not sleeping anymore!
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on January 18, 2017, 21:47:04
Next to impossible to get this organ in good light.
But today.
Bright winter sun outside, the Bonner Münster was lit by several windows and the organ was halfways visible
My picture is definitly better than the one at the maker site:
http://www.orgelbau-klais.com/m.php?tx=156
And it is only a handeld panorama at f/1.4!

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Post by: Airy on February 12, 2017, 22:23:07
The night office. Lille, St Martin d'Esquermes. Df, Sigma 24/1.4 @ 5.6, 100 ISO, 30". Camera was simply laid on altar.
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Post by: the solitaire on February 20, 2017, 22:34:40
Frank, we actually have our very own organ builder here in Kevelaer. Have not contacted them yet, to find out if an excursion is possible though
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on February 23, 2017, 20:05:09
He, Buddy. In Germany there are nearly 500 Organ Workshops (and 500 choirs too). This is the highest density in the world.

I hope you will document the weldings skills at the Kevelar workshop!

Klais though is very special. He build organs into the most prominent buildings errected in the past 30 years and planet wide. He is a genious on the business side but his organs seem to have a special quality well accepted by churches and secular venues worldwide
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Post by: Airy on March 02, 2017, 21:54:40
Porto (Portugal), S. Nicolau. Df, 105/2.5 AI @f/4 ; 1/125s ; 2800 ISO
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Post by: Airy on March 03, 2017, 22:47:11
And nearby S. Francisco chapel. 4000 ISO this time.
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Post by: Airy on March 16, 2017, 22:45:11
Leeds, St Anne cathedral. The other side. Df, 28/1.8 G
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Post by: Akira on March 17, 2017, 01:23:10
Airy, that looks really unique!  I wonder the effect of the large openings on the pipes.  Does the part of a pipe with the opening work as a sound reflector to project the note of the pipe to a certain aimed direction?
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Post by: Airy on March 17, 2017, 06:21:03
These are quite common sounding front pipes, the shot being taken from behind. For them to also fulfill their decorative role, they have been lengthened beyond what is needed for the sound (1/2 wave length). The non-sounding part is a succession of holes on the non-visible side. The shot has been taken very close, from the organ gallery.
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Post by: Akira on March 17, 2017, 07:26:32
Thanks for the explanation.  That makes sense.
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Post by: armando_m on March 22, 2017, 18:31:42
Closeups - Organ at Templo del Carmen, Guadalajara México,
Italian made Vegezzi-Bossi, installed in the 1940's
12 registers

It was being played - some sort of practice -  while I shot this, wonderful experience
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Post by: Airy on March 31, 2017, 21:39:47
Utrecht, Dom, Bätz 1831. Our first encounter took place yesterday. I immediately fell in love. Clear, mellow, warm sound wrapping around your whole body, ears included. The very ample acoustics contribute to that. The organ hangs on the wall that obstructs what was the access to the nave, which was torn down by a hurricane in 1674. It looks like the church has been built around the organ, which can bee seen and well heard from anywhere. This was one of my strongest organ-related musical experiences, together with Dôle and St Sulpice (Paris).
Needless to say, this organ is famous worldwide, amongst organists of course.

Df, Zeiss 35/2.

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Post by: Bruno Schroder on March 31, 2017, 22:38:22
Glad to hear its sound is so good.  With the series on page 14, this is the most photographed organ in this thread.
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Post by: Airy on April 01, 2017, 19:32:40
The 105/2.5 also did a good job, here at f/5.6, 1/60s handheld, and 8000 ISO.
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Post by: Akira on April 01, 2017, 19:49:50
I can keep myself enjoying this thread!

Unfortunately I don't have any opportunity to shoot organs in churches in Tokyo, but I will do that whenever chances arise.

Airy, your images looks nicely clean even at very high ISO and even considering you are using Df.  Do you use any good noise reduction (like DXO)?  The Distagon 35/2.0 images are awesome, too!
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Post by: Airy on April 01, 2017, 20:07:01
I use LR6 most of the time. NR set at 25 in the present case; sharpening is mostly left at its standard value (25). Sharpness is well preserved despite the NR. These two lenses (105/2.5 and Zeiss 35/2) are my best lenses for shooting organs, together with the 300 PF for details (set at 1/30s with VR).

The Zeiss displays, by far, the best behaviour with backlighting. The Nikkor is not that good under such circumstances, but it does not often matter as the framing is much tighter, and windows are more easily avoided. Also, 105 is not too long a FL, so it remains possible to shoot at 1/60s (series of 2-3 shots preferrably) and keep the ISO within reasonable boundaries. Even better, the widest aperture (2.5) delivers enough sharpness and contrast, so it can be used when the subject is reasonably flat.

I have not tested the 105/2.8 VR under such circumstances, maybe it would be a good alternative.

In any case, artificial lighting should be avoided whenever possible. Organ front pipes, especially the shiny ones, do not look appealing when lit by usual lamps.
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Post by: Fons Baerken on April 01, 2017, 20:27:22
Wonderful thread, images and text.
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Post by: Akira on April 01, 2017, 20:40:09
Airy, thanks for the details.  I use CC2017, so your data should help.  You are too good an advocate of Zeiss 35/2.0   :o :o :o
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Post by: Airy on April 01, 2017, 22:08:09
I remember having hesitated between this one and the Samyang 35/1.4. The Samyang was sharper wide open than the Zeiss at f/2.0, but I preferred the high contrast of the Zeiss, and also the handling (much smoother helicoid). I did not perform any against-the-light test. The superiority of the Zeiss in this respect became apparent after some usage, around 2013 I guess, when I succeeded in getting "impossible shots" in Vienna, IIRC. Since then, the Zeiss became a privileged lens in my assortment, and I never thought to re-sell it. Otherwise it is a very good allrounder; only its length and, to a lesser extent, weight, are a handicap.
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Post by: Airy on April 01, 2017, 23:28:51
Now I've heard there was a secret chord
That David played, and it pleased the Lord...
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on April 14, 2017, 20:25:43
I just found a video on youtube, played oin this organ with a breathtaking sound that blows me away: http://www.ou.edu/content/aoi/about/instruments/fisk.html

Here is the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EgGaHZwVVQ

And here is the place where you can learn to build, mend  and play the pipe organ: http://www.ou.edu/content/aoi.html
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on April 14, 2017, 20:26:14
Now I've heard there was a secret chord
That David played, and it pleased the Lord...

In Utrecht? I immediately recognized the one from out NG event the. But noone played it
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on April 14, 2017, 20:27:07
Wonderful thread, images and text.

Thank you Fons. I am a lover of this very special place too!!!
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Post by: armando_m on May 08, 2017, 01:50:19
Organ in a chapel on the side of the Guadalajara Cathedral
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Post by: Airy on May 08, 2017, 07:42:19
Masonic organ, so to say ;)

Excellent interior shot. That organ probably has one single manual keyboard and an attached pedal (pulling the lower manual tones). Looks like it is playable, and in a relatively good condition. I could not find any info on internet, though (the main organ may be by Joseph Merklin, but that one does not look like one - see for instance the front pipes)
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Post by: golunvolo on May 08, 2017, 09:34:55
I have never see the interior of an organ before. On top of very interesting and informative the light is unexpected, I will imagine a way darker set up but is very pleasing with all the wood. I like your choices of what to include in the frame. Great shot


   Thanks Armando!
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Post by: armando_m on May 08, 2017, 14:52:11
Thanks Airy , it is indeed a single keyboard, perhaps 2/3 of a piano, and if I recall correctly it had one or maybe 2 pedals, I never seen an organ with such a simple arrangement, I could not find information on the organ

Paco, The light is coming through a door which is usually closed, it is still fairly dark 1/5 sec, iso 1600 f3.5, I'm glad the VR on this 24-85 VR zoom lens works so well

Here is an image of the keyboard, not a very good one
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Post by: Akira on May 08, 2017, 15:11:59
Great details, Armando!  I've never seen the internal mechanism of an organ.  Thanks for sharing.  Your VR lens seems to work really well.
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Post by: CS on May 08, 2017, 15:26:08
We have, here in Mesa, Arizona, what is reportedly the biggest and best Wurlitzer in the world. It's in a pizza parlor,
https://www.organstoppizza.com/the-pipe-organ/history/, and maybe 10 minutes from my house. Years ago, we took our grandkids there, and they were well entertained by that organ.

With my new D7200 arriving later today, I should make plans to shoot that organ.
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Post by: Airy on May 08, 2017, 15:55:46
Thanks Armando. Would you perhaps have a front shot of the keyboards where the stop knobs are all apparent ? I can read "contrabajo 16" on the right, but that's it...
The keyboard is otherwise very much late XIXth century style, and normally the type used for 2nd or 3rd keyboards (the angled lower part is supposed to avoid interfering with the hands placed on a lower keyboard)
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Post by: CS on May 08, 2017, 16:04:06
This truly is a marvelous thread. The pipe organ has to be one of the finest things ever created by mankind, offering  visual and audio pleasure, as well as being spiritually uplifting.
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Post by: Akira on May 08, 2017, 21:02:11
Carl, the organ you referred to is an entertainment organ, and its purpose is different from that of the ones posted in this thread.  The organ like the Wuritzer were used to accompany the silent movies or some other entertainment shows, not really for the liturgical purposes.

Wurlitzer later made electric pianos used by pop artists like the Carpenters in the 70s.
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Post by: CS on May 08, 2017, 22:59:14
Carl, the organ you referred to is an entertainment organ, and its purpose is different from that of the ones posted in this thread.  The organ like the Wuritzer were used to accompany the silent movies or some other entertainment shows, not really for the liturgical purposes.

Wurlitzer later made electric pianos used by pop artists like the Carpenters in the 70s.

Yeah, it's a Theater Organ, and Wurlitzer made accordions too, my dad had one. I suppose the Wurlitzer is inappropriate for this thread. To make amends, here's a YouTube video of the pipe organ in a chapel very close to my house when I was a kid. http://tinyurl.com/nxr2phy
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Post by: Lars Hansen on August 09, 2017, 19:55:40
Today I was so fortunate to hear our local organ being played by the Sweedish organist Hans Fagius - first time he played this organ. J. S. Bach, Mendelssohn and contemporary work by the Sweedish composer Staffan Storm.

Here is a more recent shot of the organ (in #18) - this time with the entire organ in the frame.       
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Post by: Anthony on October 10, 2017, 19:58:21
Three organs in one shot.  Is this a record?

St Stephan's Cathedral, Vienna.
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Post by: rosko on October 28, 2017, 17:36:25
St Winnow Church, Cornwal, UK.

Actually it's the first time I see a pipe organ in a relatively modest church.

Note that the keyboard is looked with a padlock.
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on October 28, 2017, 21:39:10
Three organs in one shot.  Is this a record?

St Stephan's Cathedral, Vienna.

perfect shot, dear friend!
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on October 28, 2017, 21:42:04
Francis, I miss you. Great find!
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Post by: Airy on October 28, 2017, 23:07:55
A few ones from the same city, same afternoon. Df, 28/2 AI, 58/1.2 AIS, and 105/1.8 AIS.
Kortrijk (Belgium). First three : St Maarten, choir organ and main organ; then the small organ of the beguinage chapel;
two views of the organ of Our Lady's church, divided into two parts not to block the light, finally two views of the chancery organ, Budastraat chapel. And since we are in a country where the organs are supposed to be played, I heard two of them, despite the quick pace of the visits (we were out for a baroque concert).
Post divided into two, given the file size restrictions.
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Post by: Airy on October 28, 2017, 23:10:46
and the rest
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Post by: Akira on October 29, 2017, 01:40:32
Gentlemen, I keep myself marveled by all these majestic organs.  Thanks for taking your time to visit the places and sharing their wonderful images!
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Post by: golunvolo on October 29, 2017, 07:52:37
Same here. Beautiful work Airy too. That’s a dream combo you have in your skilled and sensitive hands!
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Post by: Airy on October 29, 2017, 10:41:15
Dream combo, yes, close to it. Minor rants:

28/2 AI: not so nice wide open, due to bad peripheral bokeh and sharpness. Maybe linked my sample's CRC being out of tune ? I did not test that hypothesis, as I do not know how to do it. My copy's condition looks very good otherwise; it did not apparently experience rough handling.

58/1.2 AIS: loss of contrast with backlighting and, more generally, has some issues with flare. Otherwise it is a high contrast lens, and astonishingly sharp wide open.

105/1.8 AIS: near-perfect... especially good with backlighting; great for stage shots. My copy was cleaned but not sufficiently re-greased, so there is some "dry friction" feel when focussing; I'll have to fix that.

For this particular subject (organs):

My primary intent was stage shots; for that purpose (as well as for organs) I should have taken the Voigtländer 58/1.4, but with night shots in mind after the concert, I preferred to try out the Noct.

Also, the Zeiss 135/2 is terrific for stage shots (not to mention the Nikkor 70-200), but I wanted to travel light, and the 105/1.8 is, once again, an excellent performer.

For organs, I'd take the Zeiss 35/2 or 25/2 rather than the 28/2 because of their excellent handling of backlight. Also the PC 24/3.5 fills the bill.
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Post by: Mike G on October 29, 2017, 15:12:22
Speyer Dom earlier this year and I thought of Frank!

Fuji X-T2 + 23mm 1.4

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Post by: Frank Fremerey on October 29, 2017, 16:41:53
wonderful, Mike, thank you.
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Post by: armando_m on January 02, 2018, 21:04:11
Santuario de Guadalupe - Zamora Michoacan , México
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on January 15, 2018, 06:55:04
Yesterday I have been to a concert listening to Olivier Messiaen "9 Meditations on the Birth of Christ"
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Post by: Akira on January 15, 2018, 11:11:57
Yesterday I have been to a concert listening to Olivier Messiaen "9 Meditations on the Birth of Christ"

That's envious.  Hope you enjoyed it!
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on January 15, 2018, 12:32:10
That's envious.  Hope you enjoyed it!

It was wonderful. The clustertones at the end that stand in the room like Giant Star Destroyer Ships seemed to be a tad too much for our old organ, I heared that she tried to escape her wooden housing!

https://www.sankt-petrus-bonn.de/kirchen/stiftskirche/orgel-stiftskirche (most of the photos on this website are mine)
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Post by: Akira on January 15, 2018, 16:48:37
It was wonderful. The clustertones at the end that stand in the room like Giant Star Destroyer Ships seemed to be a tad too much for our old organ, I heared that she tried to escape her wooden housing!

https://www.sankt-petrus-bonn.de/kirchen/stiftskirche/orgel-stiftskirche (most of the photos on this website are mine)

Thank you for the link.  Does the church have seven organs?
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Post by: Airy on March 03, 2018, 00:02:52
Aix en Provence, St Sauveur cathedral. The right hand side "organ" is only a façade applied to the wall, but the façade is identical with the real organ on the left, which is a beauty: a well-balanced mix of XVIIIth and XIXth century pipes, in an organ case by Jean-Esprit Isnard.
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Post by: Airy on March 03, 2018, 17:11:53
Avignon, S. Agricol. A bread-and-butter symphonic organ by Verschneider and later Puget, but a good one and, lo and behold, it works fine, and even better, they organize concerts there! a rare event in France (this is not Germany).

Organ cases were often according to neo-gothic "standards", i.e. very different from organ cases of the gothic era (these being scarcely known and preserved). Only the decorative elements were inspired from gothic stone carving, sometimes in good harmony with the surrounding church. But most frequently, the "neo gothic" organ case was just from the organ builder's catalogue.

And for info, Df + Leitz Summicron-R 50/2 at some intermediate setting (f/4-f/5.6), 1/60s handheld and fairly high ISO.
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Post by: Akira on March 03, 2018, 21:36:44
I like the symmetry design of the organ in the St Sauveur cathedral.  The green color gives a warm, somewhat idyllic feel to the otherwise a bit cold marble walls.
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Post by: Airy on March 07, 2018, 23:42:46
for reference, the outside of S. Agricol church in Avignon.
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Post by: Alaun on April 27, 2018, 22:04:54
A quick shot for Airy and Frank :)

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Post by: Airy on April 27, 2018, 23:01:20
Thanks !

I think I remember what it is. A Klais-renovated organ where some famous German organist recorded Bach's musical offering (organ solo transcription). That was some time ago already.
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Post by: Bent Hjarbo on May 01, 2018, 21:26:56
I visited a very small Danish island Orø
It had a small church with an even smaller organ. ;)
Build in 1978 at Fyns Orgelbyggeri (Funen Organbuilder).
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Post by: Hugh_3170 on May 02, 2018, 06:59:51
LOL   :o

It had a small church with an even smaller ................. ;)
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Post by: Airy on May 02, 2018, 09:38:38
As usual in Denmark, both church and organ are in a good condition.
For comparison sake, here are a couple of pictures of another modest, but pretty good countryside organ in... France...

Given the amount of dust, I guess it is no longer played, which is the prelude to total functional loss.
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Post by: Akira on May 02, 2018, 11:28:44
Given the amount of dust, I guess it is no longer played, which is the prelude to total functional loss.

Oh, that is the last prelude I would want to listen to...
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Post by: Chrisar on May 02, 2018, 12:29:31
Santuario de Guadalupe - Zamora Michoacan , México

I love the ambience of this photo.
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Post by: timh on May 02, 2018, 12:36:10
Sad to see such a beautiful old instrument in such poor condition.
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Post by: Airy on May 18, 2018, 14:26:58
Oh, that is the last prelude I would want to listen to...

well said. But now there is even a FB group called "redundant pipe organ"
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Post by: Airy on May 26, 2018, 10:53:04
Ljubljana, Cathedral St. Nicholas.
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on May 26, 2018, 14:03:40
#386: what a lovely piece of hardware honourably greyed...
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on May 26, 2018, 14:04:47
Given the amount of dust, I guess it is no longer played, which is the prelude to total functional loss.

What a sleeping beauty
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on May 26, 2018, 14:05:23
I visited a very small Danish island Orø
It had a small church with an even smaller organ. ;)
Build in 1978 at Fyns Orgelbyggeri (Funen Organbuilder).

A beautiful fit into the room!
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on May 26, 2018, 14:06:37
A quick shot for Airy and Frank :)

I think I have seen this Organ before. Is it the one on the "Kreuzberg" in Bonn? At the "Heilige Stiege"?
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Post by: Airy on May 26, 2018, 15:15:06
precisely : http://www.kreuzberg-bonn.de/orgel/ (http://www.kreuzberg-bonn.de/orgel/)
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Post by: Bent Hjarbo on June 12, 2018, 15:22:58
Was visiting Frederiksborg Castle today and found an organ ;)
For once it wa possible to take the picture straight on.
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Post by: Airy on July 08, 2018, 08:39:14
Classical structure but crazy decoration, both the chapel and the organ.
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Post by: golunvolo on July 13, 2018, 23:45:09
I think the simmetrical view works well here. The guy in the composition I like too -It makes the end of the view curious :)
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on August 21, 2018, 14:45:35
the only set of Spanish Trumpets in a pipe organ outside of Spain is built into the 1969 Rieger instrument in Marienstatt. If you are an Organ Expert and player try to find Fater Gregor for an appointment. A phantastic musical instrument last updated and newly intonated by Georg Jann in 2016.

More photos of the organ later...
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Post by: Airy on August 21, 2018, 21:37:32
Brillant shot of the trompeteria, that dates back to 1732 (the date seems to be engraved on one of the pavilions; the rest of the organ is by Rieger, 1970). You will notice that the short trumpet pipes (of the Bajoncillo, 4 foot pitch) get replaced by twin flue pipes in the treble region, one souding one octave above the longer one (i.e. 4' + 2' pitch) to lend enough brilliance.
I'd definitely like to play there. The instrument was somewhat "mythic" in the seventies, and visited by many a foreign Organist. I think I have records by Jean Langlais there.
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Post by: Airy on September 09, 2018, 21:38:59
Lille, St Pierre & St Paul. Erwin Müller, 195x. No organ case, just a heap of pipes. Not bad at all though. The local organist is very good too.
Df, 180/2.8 AIS ED at f/4, handheld.
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Post by: golunvolo on September 09, 2018, 22:03:24
Beutiful visual Airy, gives strong presence to the pipes
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Post by: Airy on September 09, 2018, 22:20:53
I was lucky, with the sun shining just at the right moment
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on September 09, 2018, 23:29:11
Was visiting Frederiksborg Castle today and found an organ ;)
For once it wa possible to take the picture straight on.

great shot in great light.

thank you for your contribution
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on January 25, 2019, 23:01:49
today I tried something different...
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Post by: Airy on January 28, 2019, 05:40:04
Another extravagant Klais organ ?
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on January 28, 2019, 11:06:55
Another extravagant Klais organ ?

the website says: "Die Orgel aus dem Jahr 1958 ist die erste mechanische Orgel, die die Bonner Orgelbaufirma Johannes Klais nach dem 2. Weltkrieg baute. Die Orgel hat eine neobarocke Disposition, verteilt auf zwei Manuale und 25 Register im Hauptwerk und Rückpositiv. Die Spieltraktur ist mechanisch, die der Register elektrisch. Die Art der Windlade ist als Schleiflade konzipiert. Im Rahmen der Sanierung 2011 wurde die Orgel vollständig überarbeitet und gereinigt."

an independent site has more info: http://organindex.de/index.php?title=Bonn,_Namen-Jesu-Kirche
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Post by: Bent Hjarbo on February 10, 2019, 17:35:35
The great Markussen organ in "Vor frue kirke" in Copenhagen from 1995 with 87 voices.
Post-processed in LR, picture is taken from the flor, and the organ is very high up ;)
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Post by: Airy on March 30, 2019, 18:49:24
Düsseldorf, Neanderkirche. Rieger 1965. A "modern" organ without compromizes, on which Almut Rössler (1932-2015, and organist at the nearby Johanneskirche) recorded the complete organ works of Olivier Messiaen, and Oskar Gottlieb Blarr (*1934) works by Bartok and Mussorgski (yessss, pictures at an exhibition).

The organ case is not exactly "beautiful", and is in stark contrast with the XVIIth century church, in typical calvinist arrangement : pulpit and altar at the long side, galleries on the three other sides. Musically, it is overwhelming and elegant at the same time, singing and percussive (also with the help of the four horizontal trumpet and clarion stops).

I have listened to its voice on records for more than forty years. Live on the 27th, for the first time.
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on March 31, 2019, 00:05:48
hey man, Airy. You are in Düsseldorf? This is next door to me. Drop by. Have half a coma in my wine cellar!
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Post by: Akira on March 31, 2019, 04:21:15
Düsseldorf, Neanderkirche. Rieger 1965. A "modern" organ without compromizes, on which Almut Rössler (1932-2015, and organist at the nearby Johanneskirche) recorded the complete organ works of Olivier Messiaen, and Oskar Gottlieb Blarr (*1934) works by Bartok and Mussorgski (yessss, pictures at an exhibition).

The organ case is not exactly "beautiful", and is in stark contrast with the XVIIth century church, in typical calvinist arrangement : pulpit and altar at the long side, galleries on the three other sides. Musically, it is overwhelming and elegant at the same time, singing and percussive (also with the help of the four horizontal trumpet and clarion stops).

I have listened to its voice on records for more than forty years. Live on the 27th, for the first time.

I've never knew that Bartok wrote pieces for organ...  Thank you for the reminder.
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Post by: Airy on March 31, 2019, 20:08:46
As a matter of fact, Bartok wrote nothing for the organ. However, some of his piano pieces (from Microcosmos, Romanian dances, etc.) can be played nearly "as is", to the extent that you'd hardly call the result a transcription.
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Post by: Airy on March 31, 2019, 20:13:01
hey man, Airy. You are in Düsseldorf? This is next door to me. Drop by. Have half a coma in my wine cellar!

Thanks for the invitation, but not this time, I'm afraid. I left the congress before the end to visit my son in Frankfurt, and then back to France because Daly City (CA) is waiting for me next week.

That said, Düsseldorf is a fine place; there are few remainders of the old town, but nice, and nice people too.
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Post by: Akira on March 31, 2019, 23:34:27
As a matter of fact, Bartok wrote nothing for the organ. However, some of his piano pieces (from Microcosmos, Romanian dances, etc.) can be played nearly "as is", to the extent that you'd hardly call the result a transcription.

Thank you for the  explanation.  Those rather simple pieces would indeed sounds nicely on the organ.
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Post by: Bent Hjarbo on April 03, 2019, 14:50:08
Sct Petri Kirche in Hamburg.
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on April 03, 2019, 15:43:23
Sct Petri Kirche in Hamburg.

looks like a Rieger ... monent ... checking ...

NO. That is: https://www.sankt-petri.de/fileadmin/fileadmin/pdf/Disposition_St._Petri_Hamburg.pdf

Hauptkirche St. Petri zu Hamburg
Disposition der Beckerath-Orgel
(1955)
restauriert und erweitert von
Alexander Schuke Potsdam Orgelbau
(2006)
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Post by: Bent Hjarbo on April 03, 2019, 16:14:02
Thanks for info Frank.
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Post by: CS on April 04, 2019, 01:15:43
Sct Petri Kirche in Hamburg.

I like the photo, but not the cabinetry housing the pipes. Looks like  something from Ikea to me.
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Post by: Bent Hjarbo on April 30, 2019, 15:09:01
Was in Herning (Jutland) for a confirmation feast.
There was of course an organ ;)
Fredens Kirke Herning
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on April 30, 2019, 15:31:49
St Severin, Bonn (Klais, 1974)

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Severin_(Mehlem)#Orgel
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Post by: Airy on June 08, 2019, 22:28:44
Köln, S. Andreas. Df, Voigtländer 58/1.4 @f/4. June 7, 2019
Organ by Gert Weyland, 1995
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Post by: Luc on September 16, 2019, 20:56:00
Beautiful images of organs in this thread!

I'll add three

Organ of Broerenkerk, Zwolle/Holland. Built in 1824 by Johann Christoff Scheuer / Olympus E-M10 12-40mm
(https://live.staticflickr.com/3734/32946978961_2fb856685d_b.jpg)

Organ (installed in 1736) of Sint-Janskerk Gouda/Holland / Olympus E-M10 Pana-Leica 8-18mm
(https://live.staticflickr.com/1953/30078837567_b058ccdbf5_b.jpg)

Organ of Nieuwe Kerk Amsterdam/Holland, installed by Schonat in 1652 and extended in 1668 by Hagerbeer / Nikon Z6 - 24-70mm
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48506431622_b51678db22_b.jpg)
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Post by: Airy on September 16, 2019, 23:04:56
Nieuwe Kerk is most impressive (structure and decoration), not to mention the sound, illustrated by the best (Leonhardt, Koopman...).
It looks like the Z6 would be a worthy successor to my Df :)
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on September 17, 2019, 05:52:24
very nice additions, Luc!
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on September 17, 2019, 05:54:11
Thank you for the link.  Does the church have seven organs?

it is not one church. The congregation has 5 churches with one or two organs per church
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Post by: mxbianco on October 05, 2019, 08:37:24
Pontigny, Bourgogne

Not particularly focused on the organ itself, but on the positional relationship of the organ with the church, lurking above the visitors at church's entrance.


11-photo vertical pano, D600, 28-300/5.6 VR handheld (original is 5400x12000 px)

Ciao from Massimo
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Post by: Bent Hjarbo on October 17, 2019, 16:48:09
From a visit to Trinitatis Church, the one with the Round-tower, "Rundetårn" in Copenhagen.
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on October 17, 2019, 17:37:47
Pontigny, Bourgogne

Not particularly focused on the organ itself, but on the positional relationship of the organ with the church, lurking above the visitors at church's entrance.


11-photo vertical pano, D600, 28-300/5.6 VR handheld (original is 5400x12000 px)

Ciao from Massimo

I love ups and overs
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on October 17, 2019, 17:41:22
From a visit to Trinitatis Church, the one with the Round-tower, "Rundetårn" in Copenhagen.


 very fine specimen ... the small one ...
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on October 23, 2019, 15:49:27
Vienna still ... a church with too much of everything ... I missed an organ concert there by just 30 minutes  .. I did not even know the church existed at the time the concert started in St Peter in the city center ... I was too long with 300mm so I had to switch to my mobile ...
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on October 26, 2019, 08:18:04
Giant organ Stephansdom Vienna, due to be fully working again in 165 days
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Post by: mxbianco on October 30, 2019, 11:16:29
Fleury Abbey Organ in Saint Benoît sur Loire, France

Compared to the Vienna Organ this one is really smallish, but I prefer the simple Romanic architecture to the excessively ornated baroque

Ciao from Massimo
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Post by: mxbianco on October 30, 2019, 17:04:15
Meung Cathedral, France

Ciao from Massimo
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on October 30, 2019, 23:04:49
mxbianco: your contributions enrich this thread, thank you!
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Post by: Frank Fremerey on October 31, 2019, 12:11:22
Paulskirche Frankfurt am Main, yesterday: