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The NikonGear Office => Site Issues => Topic started by: zuglufttier on September 10, 2015, 13:14:46

Title: Automatic redirect from nikongear.com to nikongear.com/revival
Post by: zuglufttier on September 10, 2015, 13:14:46
Hi,

are you planning to use nikongear.com as some sort of portal in the future? If that's not the case, I'd like to see an automatic redirect from nikongear.com to nikongear.com/revival so that users don't have to click that link first.

Of course, that's not a really big issue but it's also not a big issue to set up the web server to do that for the users ;)
Title: Re: Automatic redirect from nikongear.com to nikongear.com/revival
Post by: Bjørn Rørslett on September 10, 2015, 13:18:39
Although we *were* promised ownership of nikongear.com, the existing owner choose to ignore that written promise and instead renewed the domain name for himself. Go figure.

Thus, the only redirection possible is nikongear.net => nikongear.net/revival and that has been effective for all the time of the new site.
Title: Re: Automatic redirect from nikongear.com to nikongear.com/revival
Post by: Frank Fremerey on September 10, 2015, 13:32:18
You said there is a written agreement effective.
Title: Re: Automatic redirect from nikongear.com to nikongear.com/revival
Post by: Bjørn Rørslett on September 10, 2015, 13:34:41
Effective only if agreements are not violated.

Our URL nikongear.net works well enough. Perhaps it signals better the purpose namely building an interactive and functional network of photographers, and not aiming at commercial interests and profit.
Title: Re: Automatic redirect from nikongear.com to nikongear.com/revival
Post by: Frank Fremerey on September 10, 2015, 13:42:55
Yes. The spirit of a joint effort. Let us keep it up!

you could enforce the aggreement though.
Title: Re: Automatic redirect from nikongear.com to nikongear.com/revival
Post by: Bjørn Rørslett on September 10, 2015, 13:46:34
How - enforce at gun point? A hopeless case when one of the parties don't respect their own agreements.
Title: Re: Automatic redirect from nikongear.com to nikongear.com/revival
Post by: Frank Fremerey on September 10, 2015, 13:49:29
Lawyers?
Title: Re: Automatic redirect from nikongear.com to nikongear.com/revival
Post by: Bjørn Rørslett on September 10, 2015, 13:51:00
No use in this case, I assume.
Title: Re: Automatic redirect from nikongear.com to nikongear.com/revival
Post by: Jan Anne on September 10, 2015, 13:51:44
I did notice btw that http://nikongear.net/ is no longer being automatically redirected to http://nikongear.net/revival/, one has to click on the link presented on the banner site.

This is something we can fix as we did it before, curious what change disabled the fix though.
Title: Re: Automatic redirect from nikongear.com to nikongear.com/revival
Post by: Bjørn Rørslett on September 10, 2015, 13:55:12
Perhaps something Andrea will fix easily. I have a hunch why this happened, but will not intervene as my knowledge of web server configuration is far inferior to hers.

Use a permalink or bookmark in the browser and save a click or two.
Title: Re: Automatic redirect from nikongear.com to nikongear.com/revival
Post by: Andrea B. on September 10, 2015, 22:59:38
Bjørn, you are way better than me at solving redirection woes!! I am k-lue-less as to why the redirection is not working.
Title: Re: Automatic redirect from nikongear.com to nikongear.com/revival
Post by: Bjørn Rørslett on September 11, 2015, 00:00:03
I just set it up again and it apparently works from my location.

You might have to refresh the browser window once or twice if the redirect isn't immediately active.

Test by enter http://nikongear.net into a browser address bar. You should immediately be landing on nikongear.net/revival
Title: Re: Automatic redirect from nikongear.com to nikongear.com/revival
Post by: Jan Anne on September 11, 2015, 00:02:29
It works again, thanks.
Title: Re: Automatic redirect from nikongear.com to nikongear.com/revival
Post by: Frank Fremerey on September 11, 2015, 00:05:38
I bookmarked the page called

"Post since last visit"

to see if something pops up that might catch my interest.
Title: Re: Automatic redirect from nikongear.com to nikongear.com/revival
Post by: bobfriedman on September 11, 2015, 03:27:12
why not grab nikongear.org as well.. if you reinvest in the site you are not-for-profit anyway..   

my feeling is .net and .org have more "class" than .com 

but what do i know.
Title: Re: Automatic redirect from nikongear.com to nikongear.com/revival
Post by: Bjørn Rørslett on September 11, 2015, 07:44:57
We already have ....

The .org domain will be set up to point at NG.
Title: Re: Automatic redirect from nikongear.com to nikongear.com/revival
Post by: zuglufttier on September 11, 2015, 18:19:36
I did notice btw that http://nikongear.net/ is no longer being automatically redirected to http://nikongear.net/revival/, one has to click on the link presented on the banner site.

This is something we can fix as we did it before, curious what change disabled the fix though.
This is what I really meant :D I just mixed up .net and .com...
Title: Re: Automatic redirect from nikongear.com to nikongear.com/revival
Post by: Bjørn Rørslett on September 11, 2015, 18:54:32
The confusion of .com and .net is common. We hold the rights to the domain nikongear.net (+nikongear.org, the latter will be functional later).

The redirection from nikongear.net to nikongear.net/revival is working again.
Title: Re: Automatic redirect from nikongear.com to nikongear.com/revival
Post by: zuglufttier on September 13, 2015, 17:55:58
That's good to hear, thanks!
Title: Re: Automatic redirect from nikongear.com to nikongear.com/revival
Post by: Jørgen Ramskov on September 15, 2015, 15:40:50
I don't think it's worth spending time on getting NG.com back. It seems this forum is growing and doing quite well without it.
Title: Re: Automatic redirect from nikongear.com to nikongear.com/revival
Post by: Bjørn Rørslett on September 15, 2015, 15:46:15
Of course we don't "need" nikongear.com as such. In terms of attendance of members and active content building, we already outdo the older site by a very clear margin. This is more about the confusion of two similar-named domains going in highly different directions. We had hoped this should be solved by agreement but that option no longer exists.

Do enjoy and contribute on NG instead.
Title: Re: Automatic redirect from nikongear.com to nikongear.com/revival
Post by: Jørgen Ramskov on September 15, 2015, 15:51:03
That's of course true and it would certainly be an advantage to be without it.

So much is already posted here that I have trouble keeping up :)
Title: Re: Automatic redirect from nikongear.com to nikongear.com/revival
Post by: Bjørn Rørslett on September 15, 2015, 15:57:38

So much is already posted here that I have trouble keeping up :)

Very true. I feel likewise. The statistic show that on an average 160 new posts per day (+ those only for the admins, which can be a significant number on occasions).

More than 85% of the visits are from direct links or book marks, so this is still a word-of-mouth insider's site.
Title: Re: Automatic redirect from nikongear.com to nikongear.com/revival
Post by: Jørgen Ramskov on September 15, 2015, 16:14:52
I just tried searching for "nikongear":
DuckDuckGo: .com #1, Fotozones #2, .net #3.
Google.dk in english: .com #1, .net #2.
Google.dk: .net #1, .com #2.
Bing: Like DuckDuckGo.
Title: Re: Automatic redirect from nikongear.com to nikongear.com/revival
Post by: Bjørn Rørslett on September 15, 2015, 16:41:44
As I stated already, most traffic isn't from the search engines, although their spiders crawl over us every time. But our presence and standing in the cybersearch increase by the day.

It is not an aim for NG to become a big community as far as traffic quanitity goes. We are entirely devoid of any revenue depending on traffic volume as such. However, a site can be influential by means of the community participation and the quality of content generated. This is the direction in which the Team hopes NG will follow.

From my present Norwegian location,

Google.com: #1 .com  #2 .net #3 FZ
Google.no  : #1 .com  #2 .net  #3 FZ
Bing          : #1 .com  #2  FZ   #3 .net
Duckgogo  : #1 .com  #2 FZ    #3 .net

Thus, although we currently aren't pushed on top of the search stack (not unexpected, as we don't do anything to make that happen), we are directly visible to anyone searching for 'nikongear'. My guess is that the nikongear.net site will surpass the .com version in the foreseeable near future as that site pair continues its current trend of diminished influence. Many of the newcomers to NG have membership on FZ and there is no need for them to think of "site preference" because both communities, hopefully, can and should co-exist happily. Thus do site hopping as much as you like ....
Title: Re: Automatic redirect from nikongear.com to nikongear.com/revival
Post by: elsa hoffmann on September 15, 2015, 16:43:04
That's of course true and it would certainly be an advantage to be without it.

So much is already posted here that I have trouble keeping up :)

haha just hit the "mark all contents as read" and start again :) sometimes I just have to!
Title: Re: Automatic redirect from nikongear.com to nikongear.com/revival
Post by: Jørgen Ramskov on September 15, 2015, 20:35:41
I rarely do that, I would hate not seeing that totally awesome shot :)